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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Birtannia
    Watson would be left stranded on 10 in the same situation. Gilly can at least tee off with the tail and make some quick runs, Watson needs to build an innings and that is difficult to do with the value the likes of Warne puts on his wicket.
    Yes good point that, we will have to wait and see

    I noticed on the tele today they were saying Watson was as good as over the line as far as selection for the first Test, and that he would be Australias answer to Freddie
    You know it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Birtannia
    Watson would be left stranded on 10 in the same situation. Gilly can at least tee off with the tail and make some quick runs, Watson needs to build an innings and that is difficult to do with the value the likes of Warne puts on his wicket.
    IIRC Warne made 90 odd last year when he was actually needed to stick around for a while - I think he can place a high value on his wicket, but generally doesn't see the need when he normally comes in at 6 for 350+
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    Quote Originally Posted by open365
    Nah, Chris Cairns was a true all-rounder and i don't think he was good enough to merit a spot for either batting or bowling seperately.
    You are joking right? Name me one NZ bowler in all of the 90s who could claim to be a better bowler than Chris Cairns? And id also love to hear how many batsmen other than Fleming and Astle(and for a short period Twose/Richardson) could claim to be in the side ahead of Chris Cairns in the batting department?
    Chris Cairns wasnt world class in either discipline, but for NZ he could have walked into the side with his eyes closed even if he could only perform one of them. His record post 95 with both bat and ball is infinetly superior to what it was before. And it would probably have only been better if he didnt get injured every 3rd game.

    Quote Originally Posted by open365
    Watson is defintely an all rounder imo. Anyone who averages 50 and can bowl 140+(regardless of movement) is an all roubnder.
    Yes in domestic cricket, its certainly not quite that simple in international cricket. It should also be pointed out that Watson has unsurprisingly been rubbish with the ball for the last 4 seasons in FC cricket, certainly at the moment hes nothing more than a part timer with the ball. He might have the potential to change it in the future, but he certainly doesnt possess the ability at the moment to call himself anything other than a decent fast bowler in any form of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes
    I see your point about a poor man's Kallis though, especially in tests. ODI's Watson looks to have found a spark though.
    Has anyone noticed the improvement in Kallis' bowling off late? Ok so he still doesnt bowl many overs, but when he does come on hes usually bowling at a brisk pace and hes certainly bowling much better than he has been over the last few years. Certainly if he bowled more he could still be a handful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    Has anyone noticed the improvement in Kallis' bowling off late? Ok so he still doesnt bowl many overs, but when he does come on hes usually bowling at a brisk pace and hes certainly bowling much better than he has been over the last few years. Certainly if he bowled more he could still be a handful.
    Yeah, actually I first noticed it when Australia were playing in South Africa. He was actually quite good in that series with the ball and was always a wicket taking threat, especially getting some reverse with the older ball. Definitely the best I've seen him bowl since around 2001 or so.
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