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    Yeah, I've never got that argument. He had 3 or 4 tests and scored 1 50 and 1 100, which was a double. Of course if you take out his 200 he's going to have a poor average, he's played a maximum of 8 innings.
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    It seems as though England's fourth seamer options just aren't good enough. I'd consider going in with Joyce for the next test and rely on Collingwood and Pietersen throwing in a few overs.

    Surely it's about time Read was tried too?

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    It's an option James but TBH no else supports me here chuck Plunkett in there Shaun Tait learnt from it you may as well blood some players now in what is a dead series.

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    People have hurled abuse at Plunkett, but when I have seen him play he has played well. Did very Well against Sri Lanka. He offers strength in the tail and for future months, looks a decent one-day player

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    A potential idea maybe to alter the opening partnership. It was said yesterday on the forum that a low opening partnership leads to a low overall total, certainly for England anyway. It maybe worth chucking Ian Bell in at no.2, he has been consistent and will get you runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDominance
    It's an option James but TBH no else supports me here chuck Plunkett in there Shaun Tait learnt from it you may as well blood some players now in what is a dead series.
    How can you say Tait has learned from his 2 games in the Ashes when he's not represented Australia since?
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    Quote Originally Posted by James
    It seems as though England's fourth seamer options just aren't good enough. I'd consider going in with Joyce for the next test and rely on Collingwood and Pietersen throwing in a few overs.

    Surely it's about time Read was tried too?

    Strauss
    Cook
    Bell
    Pietersen
    Collingwood
    Joyce
    Flintoff
    Read
    Hoggard
    Harmison
    Panesar
    Personally I'd pick that side for Boxing Day.

    2 overs in the first 73 suggests Fred doesn't want Mahmood there, so why not pick a proper batsman (not least because we've a bit of a run for debutting batsmen!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    How can you say Tait has learned from his 2 games in the Ashes when he's not represented Australia since?
    he collected a 7 for in the ING Cup Final of last year i think it was in abrutal display of quick bowling against a quality NSW Lineup.

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    a 6fer when he dismissed such luminaries as Simmons, Richards, Phelps and Krezja?

    How does that show that he's learned a lot from 2 Tests?

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    To be fair Marc, that was one of the best one-day bowling performances I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    How can you say Tait has learned from his 2 games in the Ashes when he's not represented Australia since?
    That's a reflection of Australia's depth in the pace department more than Tait's lack of progress IMO.

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    Surprised that there hasn't been any discussion regarding Australia's side for the 4th test.

    The Ashes have already been won so this would be a good time to blood some of the youngsters IMO, especially considering the mass exodus that may come in the next year or two.

    Jaques? Rogers? They aren't in the XI but perhaps they should've been considered.

    Hopefully Johnson gets a test and Tait gets a look-in for the final test. MacGill should get a test and Symonds should be forgotten if he fails again. Feel for Watson tbh.

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    Only spot that might get changed for the 4th test is that of Symonds'.

    You don't give out charity Test caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    a 6fer when he dismissed such luminaries as Simmons, Richards, Phelps and Krezja?

    How does that show that he's learned a lot from 2 Tests?
    To be fair Phelps averaged 50 odd that year in Pura Cup so not a bad effort. Krezja was being talked about possibly going on the Indian Tour by Ponting i think it was when he bowled to him in the nets. Simmons is quite promising but still has a long way to go and Richards is quite average but you no would dominate most County Championship sides.

    Btw dont diss Krezja one of my best mates sister is going out with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox
    Only spot that might get changed for the 4th test is that of Symonds'.

    You don't give out charity Test caps.
    You also don't drive your team into a situation where everyone retires and all you have is a bunch of cricketers with no meaningful experience.

    Giving a match to Phil Jaques or Mitchell Johnson wouldn't be charity, it would be wise.

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