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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79
    Except Ponting's 49 contributed significantly to Australia winning, while in the end Collingwood's innings didn't contribute to saving the match for England.
    Haha, his 100+ balls faced was a major factor in making sure it was remotely close. If England had drawn the match it'd would have been noted as the key innings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alysum
    no he was wasting overs to get a draw
    I think the result kind of highlights the ridiculousness of the approach really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79
    Except Ponting's 49 contributed significantly to Australia winning, while in the end Collingwood's innings didn't contribute to saving the match for England. It would be easy to underestimate Ponting today, because he made it look very easy but he was batting like a tank.
    Ignore the troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Coco
    I think the result kind of highlights the ridiculousness of the approach really.
    Ridiculous just about sums Collingwood up today.


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    On a pitch like that, a standout bowler should have been given Man of the Match. Hoggard or Stuart Clark. Any bowler who excelled on the first four days on that road, deserves more credit than a batsman who did likewise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matteh
    Haha, his 100+ balls faced was a major factor in making sure it was remotely close. If England had drawn the match it'd would have been noted as the key innings.
    As someone said on radio this morning, if England had taken the game up to Australia in the first couple of hours instead of playing for a draw from the start they would have had too many runs for it to be anything other than a draw. Collingwood did well to stay around, but when you have a guy scoring no runs at one end it puts a bit of pressure on the guys at the other. You're basically in a situation where, if a couple of wickets fall, your team's under pressure becuase all of a sudden if you lose 10 wickets you don't have enough runs to defend.

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    Was Hoggard injured in the 2nd innings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj
    Was Hoggard injured in the 2nd innings?
    After the first over he was

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    Funniest moment of the day comes from Ian Healy.

    "This Ashes series continues to twist and turn like a... giant python!"

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    Ponting > Collingwood

    Paul Collingwood defended like Trevor Bailey and showed no interest in protecting his lower-order until the last-gasp arrival of James Anderson. The breakthrough of the first-innings 206 was replaced by a breakdown. He remained not out on 22 but in the context of the result who cared?

    Making runs, any runs, was more valuable than eating up time, although the methods were magnificently complementary. Collingwood faced 119 balls, struck two fours and let his team down. A half-century, even some intent to attack or a desire to hit something loose - there were opportunities - would have ensured more fame and a draw. Block, leave, pad-up, defend. Take a single, leave the tail-ender exposed, watch them scatter like the ground's seagulls.

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    Has a team ever played and been captained (in terms of the choice of bowlers) so badly on a final day of a Test match? If I didn't know better, I'd say the game was fixed. Hoggard, Harmison and Flintoff should have bowled at least 25 of the 32 overs. Hoggard and Flintoff in the main.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurrz
    Ponting > Collingwood

    Paul Collingwood defended like Trevor Bailey and showed no interest in protecting his lower-order until the last-gasp arrival of James Anderson. The breakthrough of the first-innings 206 was replaced by a breakdown. He remained not out on 22 but in the context of the result who cared?

    Making runs, any runs, was more valuable than eating up time, although the methods were magnificently complementary. Collingwood faced 119 balls, struck two fours and let his team down. A half-century, even some intent to attack or a desire to hit something loose - there were opportunities - would have ensured more fame and a draw. Block, leave, pad-up, defend. Take a single, leave the tail-ender exposed, watch them scatter like the ground's seagulls.
    If you're going to have a pop at a member of the England team, Collingwood shouldn't be it tbh. The fact he hit a double century and then kept his wicket (even if you disagree with the methods) when everyone else was losing theirs means he's clearly not the one to question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurrz
    Ponting > Collingwood

    Paul Collingwood defended like Trevor Bailey and showed no interest in protecting his lower-order until the last-gasp arrival of James Anderson. The breakthrough of the first-innings 206 was replaced by a breakdown. He remained not out on 22 but in the context of the result who cared?

    Making runs, any runs, was more valuable than eating up time, although the methods were magnificently complementary. Collingwood faced 119 balls, struck two fours and let his team down. A half-century, even some intent to attack or a desire to hit something loose - there were opportunities - would have ensured more fame and a draw. Block, leave, pad-up, defend. Take a single, leave the tail-ender exposed, watch them scatter like the ground's seagulls.
    Superb post.

    Not the first time either. Your wisdom is not going unnoticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BingLeeElectric
    Superb post.

    Not the first time either. Your wisdom is not going unnoticed.
    Half of it (at least) was plagiarised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig
    In 2004 you wouldn't of been saying that. He had every right to claim to be one of the best fast bowlers in the world at the time.
    Unfortunately this game is being played towards the end of 2006, and we all know how poor Harmison' s been for the majority of the last 2 years.

    Really, it would just be nice to be proved wrong occasionally. The shortcomings of this side were evident to everyone except Duncan Fletcher, and they've all been shown up. Anderson & Giles' inadequacies & lack of cricket this year always meant that there were better alternatives. Fred was always going to struggle at 6, especially given the amount of cricket he's played since June. The idea of Jones being any sort of test batsman has long since been shown up as complete mythology, and, if Fletcher really doesn't rate Read then he should have taken Foster as backup. And Harmison's performances haven't surprised anyone who's actually watched him over the last 24 months, whatever some people will try to tell you.

    The assumptions that we have to play as many of the 2005 side as possible, and that we have to play 5 bowlers, just ignores everything that has happened since. And much of what actually happened in 2005, tbh.



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