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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig
    Flintoff strikes and Clark is out.

    Really apart from Flintoff and to some extent James Anderson, England have been pathetic - Australia nearly have 600 up and saying otherwise is just low standard excuse making.
    Hoggard has been clearly Englands second best bowler rather than Anderson

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    Anderson has certainly copped abit in parts of the innings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irfan
    Hoggard has been clearly Englands second best bowler rather than Anderson
    Fair enough from the action I have seen Anderson did look ok on occassions but yeah Hoggard has bowled well.
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    I just realised there's still 28 overs to be bowled tonight, so definitely time for Lee to cash in on a fifty (and Australia to exceed 600) if McGrath can survive out there with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig
    True but some of the bowling was real dire.

    You can't just say that the batting was very good and England were outplayed in the 1st innings and pass that off as acceptable.
    True, but they are still massively under done. The bowling has been pretty average, but you have to give credit to the fact that, aprat form the bal that got Langer, nearly every 4 ball has been absolutely smashed.
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    Not that I agree with the policy (trumpets and beachballs being banned is a joke - surely the objective is to have the crowd enjoy themselves) but the guy cant say he wasnt warned

    Told not to take it into the ground

    Evicted for playing it

    Let back in on proviso he didnt play it again

    Played it again and thrown out

    Policy is ridiculous but security guards are only there to enforce the rules

    Anyway, declare ffs

    About the only thing that can happen here is for Lee and McGrath to get hit

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    Looks like Ponting's about to declare as the total hits 600 - Lee might miss out on the 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey
    True, but they are still massively under done. The bowling has been pretty average, but you have to give credit to the fact that, aprat form the bal that got Langer, nearly every 4 ball has been absolutely smashed.
    Well will we agree that Harmison should of been made to play in the last warm up game, side strain or not like Mark Taylor was mentioning at lunch?

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    Ponting's declared 9/602.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig
    Well will we agree that Harmison should of been made to play in the last warm up game, side strain or not like Mark Taylor was mentioning at lunch?
    If they intended him to play through the series (as I imagine they did), I don't see why you'd risk him aggravating an injury just before the Ashes opener.

    I don't think Harmison's problems are so much about fitness as they are psychological, anyway, really.

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    Reasonable declaration. I actually thought Ponting might drag it out for another 20 minutes, to give the Australian bowlers around an hour before stumps, and a relatively new ball tomorrow. As it is they'll get nearly around 80 minutes after the changeover, which means that Warne and Clark should get a decent bowl as well as the openers.

    Another top innings from Lee, who is looking more and more solid with the bat these days. He'll make a test century one day, I'd put money on it. Good hitting by Clark too. Australia's tail is pretty damn good with those two, Warne and a passable McGrath these days. You'd feel fairly comfortable as a number 6 or 7 knowing those would be the bowlers you might end up batting with.

    Anyway, should be an interesting little session. England basically have nothing to gain now, and would need to bat spectacularly well for about two days and then bowl brilliantly to get a positive result from the match. Australia should definitely win the test from here on a fairly sporting wicket that offers plenty to Warne. Not a great pitch for Lee though, so I'd imagine McGrath and Clark will be the most dangerous seamers.
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    I know its stating the obvious but England really need to try and get something out of the game batting wise even if they can't avoid defeat at least try and show a bit of application and keep Australia in the field for as long as possible especially with the baxk to back tests and Australias aging attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irfan
    Hoggard has been clearly Englands second best bowler rather than Anderson
    I disagree. All of Anderson, Hoggard and Giles bowled good spells from time to time, but Anderson was the most consistent. Bowled very well this morning in two pre-lunch spells and against other batsmen may have gotten a few wickets. Hoggard bowled one excellent spell in the afternoon, but was generally less threatening I think.

    Giles was very good yesterday but quite ordinary today. Still doesn't put enough work on the ball to make batsmen nervous hitting him straight, and relies mostly on keeping it fairly tight.

    I think we can all agree that Flintoff was the best and Harmison was horrible. I don't think England's performance was entirely responsible for the 600+ score though. They bowled poorly at times certainly, but the fielding and a fair chunk of the bowling was good, especially on day two. It was just some fantastic batting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Love™
    If they intended him to play through the series (as I imagine they did), I don't see why you'd risk him aggravating an injury just before the Ashes opener.

    I don't think Harmison's problems are so much about fitness as they are psychological, anyway, really.
    Well Taylor's opinion there was times when he needed to just bowl and get some overs in injury or not. But I know you don't think highly of him as a commentator.

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    Oh ffs Healy commentating

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