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Old 17-11-2006, 01:58 AM   #211 (permalink)
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He's definitley twinged his hamstring. Doubt it's that bad. He's only going home as a massive precautionary measure. He'll be there for the first test IMO. (Based on nothing more than a feeling though).

i agree, Marto will be right too i think.
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Old 17-11-2006, 07:43 AM   #212 (permalink)
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Old 17-11-2006, 08:10 AM   #213 (permalink)
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I'm hoping he'll be right, but I think he'll miss at least one test and possibly two. It didn't look very serious, but if there's even a slight strain it'll be a real risk to play him with the test starting in under a week.
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Be interesting to see who they pick if Watson isn't fit. Do they think they need an all-rounder in which case it will probably be the "poor man's Flintoff" (Andrew Symonds). Hasn't anyone noticed that the Aussies have wanted a batting/bowling all-rounder since the last Ashes? I believe you play to your own strengths - England got so obsessed with finding our own Shane Warne we once picked Chris Scofield! It's a shame for Watson though - we'll never know if he's good enough at Test level if he's always injured (another similarity with Flintoff's early career).
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Be interesting to see who they pick if Watson isn't fit. Do they think they need an all-rounder in which case it will probably be the "poor man's Flintoff" (Andrew Symonds). Hasn't anyone noticed that the Aussies have wanted a batting/bowling all-rounder since the last Ashes? I believe you play to your own strengths - England got so obsessed with finding our own Shane Warne we once picked Chris Scofield! It's a shame for Watson though - we'll never know if he's good enough at Test level if he's always injured (another similarity with Flintoff's early career).
Actually the selectors quest for an all-rounder has filled enough newspaper space to account for an entire forest's worth of trees.

If he doesn't get up, it will be interesting to see if they go for Symonds over Clarke - unlikely, but certainly not outside the realms.

Otherwise, really feel for Watto if this is going to keep him out. The guy can't take a trick.
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If you're talking about Clarke...
Yes, Clarke at least...

And what's wrong with that, seeing as he is ahead of him?
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They should go with Clarke if either Watson or Martyn are unable to play. Would like to see Hodge if both are unfit. Symonds shouldn't get near the Australian Ashes squad.
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I hope to God Symonds plays. Seriously. He's no better a Test all-rounder than Collingwood. Please please play Symonds. Please.
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I hope to God Symonds plays. Seriously. He's no better a Test all-rounder than Collingwood. Please please play Symonds. Please.
Just for that I hope he plays and smashes a hundred.
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I hope to God Symonds plays. Seriously. He's no better a Test all-rounder than Collingwood. Please please play Symonds. Please.
He's nowhere near Collingwood in anything except fielding to be honest...
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He's nowhere near Collingwood in anything except fielding to be honest...
I'd much rather have Symonds in my side.
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I'd prefer to have Collingwood to be perfectly honest, his batting is superior to that of Symonds while they are about equal in the field. Symonds bowling is probably a bit more handy that Collingwood, seeing as how he can bowl off break aswell.
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He's nowhere near Collingwood in anything except fielding to be honest...
I'd say Symonds is a much better bowler than Collingwood in both ODIs and tests, is useful in a wider range of situations and in tests is much more likely to at least keep it tight. His bowling wasn't exactly a dramatic success at test level, but he did take 5 wickets in the Boxing Day test against South Africa and had a fair hand in the result of that game in the process.

Collingwood's certainly a better test batsman, though. Symonds doesn't seem to know the appropriate way to bat in any situation unless his only goal is quick runs, and his average of under 20 pretty much reflects how he played, if not necessarily his ability.
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Not really surprising that Clarke is called up considering Hilditch statement that Watson was not picked as an allrounder, but as "one of the best six batsmen in the country".
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Not really surprising that Clarke is called up considering Hilditch statement that Watson was not picked as an allrounder, but as "one of the best six batsmen in the country".
if that is truly what Hilditch believes, then I guess Jaques and Hodge know where they stand!
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