I'm dissappointed with England, 5-0 - McGrath - Page 2

Dasa · 09-10-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by benchmark00

Hahaha people try to question McGrath. Have you forgotten he's the most successful pace bowler in the history of the game? What right do you minions have handing him advice? I'd suggest with a record like that he can do or say whatever the hell he wants, because he can back it up.

Just because he's a champion bowler means he can say anything he wants and is above criticism? Not very logical.

dontcloseyoureyes · 09-10-2006, 07:03 PM

He's just confident in himself and his team for ****s sake. He should be, he's playing test cricket.

Burgey · 09-10-2006, 09:16 PM

Never mind McGrath. What about Gatting's piece this morning as reported on Cricketweb's front page?

Apparently, because Kim Hughes (last played tests 1984-85) and Greg Ritchie (most famous for a pitch invasion in the West Indies in 1995 rather than anything he accomplished at the highest level) have come out and made comments about certain current Aussie players and their coach, there is disunity in the Australian camp!

What a load of BS. If current squad members were coming out and saying those things, well and good, but please. This is ridiculous - I think he's still getting over Old Trafford 1993.

GIMH · 10-10-2006, 01:12 AM

Andrew Flintoff's the world's greatest player but you don't hear him making such sweeping statements - he obviously has the right to going by the logic that McGrath does. I know it's tongue-in-cheek, but really, it's quite boring. I doubt idiotic Aussie comments will act as motivation to England, because our players will probably not be listening. Yawn, snore, zzzz.

benchmark00 · 10-10-2006, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dasa

Just because he's a champion bowler means he can say anything he wants and is above criticism? Not very logical.

Within reason and within the sections he has control over, yes. I'm not saying he can come out and say, for example, racist comments, that's just stupid. This sort of thing works for McGrath, and until it stops working, he can say whatever he wants. Look forward to him naming his bunnys for this series.

Dasa · 10-10-2006, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by benchmark00

Within reason and within the sections he has control over, yes. I'm not saying he can come out and say, for example, racist comments, that's just stupid. This sort of thing works for McGrath, and until it stops working, he can say whatever he wants. Look forward to him naming his bunnys for this series.

That makes sense.

benchmark00 · 10-10-2006, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dasa

That makes sense.

You know it.

Matt79 · 10-10-2006, 06:16 AM

Pretty funny by Pidge to be honest.

Poker Boy · 10-10-2006, 07:41 AM

About Gatting - former players pontificate all the time(earlier this year Terry Alderman said McGrath was finished) but the difference is they don't have to "walk the walk" - and it was Warne who moaned at Australia's coach(upset because the boot camp meant he missed some Hampshire matches?)

Burgey · 10-10-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Andrew Flintoff's the world's greatest player.....

Is he?

It's a big call to make given that he dominated one series (in which he played magnificently), has been injured almost the whole time since, is about to come back as a batsman and is yet to play at a level comensurate with his 2005 Ashes form for a lengthy period of time. Wouldn't he have to play for a reasonable period at a level consistent with his 05 form to be regarded as the world's greatest player? Not necessarily get those results, but at least play to that level?

It would be like saying that in 2001 VVS Laxman was the greatest player in the world because he had a dominant sries at home against Australia.

Mind you, Fred's a fine player and a great sportsman as he demonstrated last year after Edgbaston.

I'm not prepard to say he's the greatest player in the world yet, but I still wish he was an Aussie!!!

UncleTheOne · 10-10-2006, 03:04 PM

Not the worlds greatest, but he could be labeled MVP in the world.

Burgey · 10-10-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleTheOne

Not the worlds greatest, but he could be labeled MVP in the world.

Yeah. Happy to run with that. He's so great to watch, apart from what he brings to the team.

archie mac · 10-10-2006, 04:15 PM

Why even bother with McGrath and his predictions? They are the same every series, "I think we will win all of the Tests, bar rain"

"I am going to target blah, blah, I have noticed a weakness"

"The other team, have a lot of problems"

As soon as I see the headline in the paper "McGrath predicts" I skip straight to the footy section.

marc71178 · 10-10-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Burgey

Is he?

It's a big call to make given that he dominated one series (in which he played magnificently), has been injured almost the whole time since, is about to come back as a batsman and is yet to play at a level comensurate with his 2005 Ashes form for a lengthy period of time.

One could argue that he was only continuing his past form during the Ashes - seeing as he's averagin about 40-27 over the last 40 Tests...

silentstriker · 10-10-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

One could argue that he was only continuing his past form during the Ashes - seeing as he's averagin about 40-27 over the last 40 Tests...

That still doesn't make him the greatest player. I'd much rather have a player just average 80 with the bat (like Hussey) or 18 with the ball. The thing that makes Freddie so good is the same thing that makes the Indian team so bad: clutch performances. Come up big when you need it the most.

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09-10-2006, 09:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
Burgey Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Castle Posts: 35,117	Never mind McGrath. What about Gatting's piece this morning as reported on Cricketweb's front page? Apparently, because Kim Hughes (last played tests 1984-85) and Greg Ritchie (most famous for a pitch invasion in the West Indies in 1995 rather than anything he accomplished at the highest level) have come out and made comments about certain current Aussie players and their coach, there is disunity in the Australian camp! What a load of BS. If current squad members were coming out and saying those things, well and good, but please. This is ridiculous - I think he's still getting over Old Trafford 1993. __________________ WWCC - Loyaulte Mi Lie "People make me happy.. not places.. people" "When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life." - Samuel Johnson "Oh my God, there's a castle! A castle!"

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GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,581	Andrew Flintoff's the world's greatest player but you don't hear him making such sweeping statements - he obviously has the right to going by the logic that McGrath does. I know it's tongue-in-cheek, but really, it's quite boring. I doubt idiotic Aussie comments will act as motivation to England, because our players will probably not be listening. Yawn, snore, zzzz. __________________ Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they’ll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.

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archie mac Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: canberra Australia Posts: 10,668	Why even bother with McGrath and his predictions? They are the same every series, "I think we will win all of the Tests, bar rain" "I am going to target blah, blah, I have noticed a weakness" "The other team, have a lot of problems" As soon as I see the headline in the paper "McGrath predicts" I skip straight to the footy section. __________________ You know it makes sense.

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Poker Boy State Vice-Captain Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kilbirnie, Scotland Posts: 1,105	About Gatting - former players pontificate all the time(earlier this year Terry Alderman said McGrath was finished) but the difference is they don't have to "walk the walk" - and it was Warne who moaned at Australia's coach(upset because the boot camp meant he missed some Hampshire matches?)

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