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    So is he getting any punishment from his behaviour towards Benson last night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by James90
    So is he getting any punishment from his behaviour towards Benson last night?
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasa
    Nope.
    It sometimes varies how quickly these things get decided, are we in some kind of awkward timezone loop, maybe?

    I've been trying to see the incident on Youtube, but no luck so far.
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    Am I right in seeing that it wasn't included in the umpires report?

    Be interesting to see what happens next time he acts in a similar manner, will that umpire report it or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Love™
    It sometimes varies how quickly these things get decided, are we in some kind of awkward timezone loop, maybe?

    I've been trying to see the incident on Youtube, but no luck so far.
    I think Marc's right and it wasn't reported as dissent. Obviously the match referee can overrule the umpire on that one (like in the Bangladesh incident where the umpire's had no complaint but the referee fined Ponting), but as far as I know he hasn't done that, which means Ponting hasn't been charged with anything.

    Obviously it depends a bit on what he said, but I think there might be some leniency shown on purpose because of the unusual nature of the incident Ponting was unhappy with. As far as I know, a player being recalled to the crease without the interference of the opposing captain or fielders is more or less unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    I think Marc's right and it wasn't reported as dissent. Obviously the match referee can overrule the umpire on that one (like in the Bangladesh incident where the umpire's had no complaint but the referee fined Ponting), but as far as I know he hasn't done that, which means Ponting hasn't been charged with anything.

    Obviously it depends a bit on what he said, but I think there might be some leniency shown on purpose because of the unusual nature of the incident Ponting was unhappy with. As far as I know, a player being recalled to the crease without the interference of the opposing captain or fielders is more or less unique.
    That's as may be, although you would have to agree it's a little strange that he'd be extended that leniency upon questioning an umpire's decision again - particularly so soon after the serious warning from Broad and the stated likelihood that his next such offence would bring about a suspension.

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    Yourtube footage see here. A horrible decision, but i can understand why he gave it at first, in the normal speed replay it sounded like a nick, but how Benson handled the situation was fantastic IMO.

    According to all the reports i have read, Ponting won't get any punishment for the Incident. In the Courier Mail this morning they had an article on the Incident. Chris Broad reportably said that he saw nothing wrong with the incident, and the umpires had not problem with it. It appears the deciding factor was that Benson called ponting over and initiated their conversation, not ponting walking up to him demanding an explanation.

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    "There was no problem with Ricky on this occasion because the umpire approached him to tell him he had changed his decision. Ricky did not approach the umpire.

    "The umpire instantaneously knew he had made the wrong decision, so he was within his rights to change it and Ricky was informed of that"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clapo
    Yourtube footage see here. A horrible decision, but i can understand why he gave it at first, in the normal speed replay it sounded like a nick, but how Benson handled the situation was fantastic IMO.

    According to all the reports i have read, Ponting won't get any punishment for the Incident. In the Courier Mail this morning they had an article on the Incident. Chris Broad reportably said that he saw nothing wrong with the incident, and the umpires had not problem with it. It appears the deciding factor was that Benson called ponting over and initiated their conversation, not ponting walking up to him demanding an explanation.

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    Thanks for the youtube footage, how did you look it up? I tried just searching under Ricky Ponting, but it wasn't listed there a couple of hours ago. Actually, looking at it, I agree that there's not that much in it (at least between Ponting and the umpire) - most of what he has to say seems directed at Tendulkar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Love™
    Thanks for the youtube footage, how did you look it up? I tried just searching under Ricky Ponting, but it wasn't listed there a couple of hours ago. Actually, looking at it, I agree that there's not that much in it (at least between Ponting and the umpire) - most of what he has to say seems directed at Tendulkar.
    Cause you clearly didn't search for 'Tendulkar & Ponting Crying for each other.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Love™
    Actually, looking at it, I agree that there's not that much in it (at least between Ponting and the umpire) - most of what he has to say seems directed at Tendulkar.
    What you don't see on that video is Ponting describing the decision to Benson's face as 'a disgrace'. I reckon he was let off because, as Faaip mentioned, its a unique scenario. Because correct me if I'm wrong, but if a fielding captain tells an umpire his decision is a disgrace in regular circumstances (lbw not given, wide called incorrectly etc.) you'd be punished.
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    FFS, who does Ponting think he is? He can't go complaining to umpires all the time like this every time a decision doesn't go his way. He also can't go on much longer without punishment simply because he happens to be the captain of the world's best team.

    I wish he'd stop going around calling people "a disgrace" - starting to sound a bit hypocritical.

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    Brave call from Benson for me. On whose say so did he reverse the decision (which was an absolute shocker TBF)? Did the third ump have a word or did Benson just see the big screen footage at the ground?

    Ponting on pretty thin ice calling giving a correct decision "a disgrace". More disgraceful than appealing for a catch which was very palpably not off the bat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    Brave call from Benson for me. On whose say so did he reverse the decision (which was an absolute shocker TBF)? Did the third ump have a word or did Benson just see the big screen footage at the ground?

    Ponting on pretty thin ice calling giving a correct decision "a disgrace". More disgraceful than appealing for a catch which was very palpably not off the bat?
    The decision on Lara last night was just as bad IMO. I can't believe an experienced umpire could possibly give Lara out last night. It was clearly evident his bat was nowhere near the ball. Where was Ponting complaining to the umpire about his poor decision against Lara?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    What you don't see on that video is Ponting describing the decision to Benson's face as 'a disgrace'. I reckon he was let off because, as Faaip mentioned, its a unique scenario. Because correct me if I'm wrong, but if a fielding captain tells an umpire his decision is a disgrace in regular circumstances (lbw not given, wide called incorrectly etc.) you'd be punished.
    I'm assuming you saw/heard this on Fox Sports?? Just seems to be no mention of it anywhere else ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Wright
    The decision on Lara last night was just as bad IMO. I can't believe an experienced umpire could possibly give Lara out last night. It was clearly evident his bat was nowhere near the ball. Where was Ponting complaining to the umpire about his poor decision against Lara?
    Haven't seen it yet. Benson again?

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