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    Ashes could be last series -says Langer

    sad to hear but woudn't mind if he does retire TBH since Australia have a more than capable replacement in Jaques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    sad to hear but woudn't mind if he does retire TBH since Australia have a more than capable replacement in Jaques.
    hahahahahahahahahahahaha (breathe, Eddie) hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    hahahahahahahahahahahaha (breathe, Eddie) hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    sorry.

    There is absolutely no comparison.
    obviously you misunderstood, i''m not saying that he & Langer are similar or that he can better Langer's achievements or anything, all i'm saying is when/if he does retire after the ashes Australia wont have to look too far to replace him since Jaques is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    obviously you misunderstood, i''m not saying that he & Langer are similar or that he can better Langer's achievements or anything, all i'm saying is when/if he does retire after the ashes Australia wont have to look too far to replace him since Jaques is there.
    It's quite obvious that, as things stand, he is earmarked for the side whenever Justin Langer decides to call it quits. So obvious in fact that I couldn't believe that's all that you were saying.

    Along with Hayden, you'd then have two overly-aggressive openers whose first thought is to attack instead of just establishing a solid footing first.

    Maybe I'm too old for this nonsense, but test cricket's becoming like an ODI, ODI's are becoming like Twenty20's, Twenty20's are drone zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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    Seems a bit early to be writing off Jaques, doesn't it? I'd be surprised if you knew enough about his batting to judge whether or not he is "overly aggressive", and certainly if you look at the way Hayden has played in the last six months or so, aggressive is the last word you would use to describe it.

    Langer will be a big loss to Australia because he is a great player, and I'll be sad to see him go, but Jaques is a quality batsman and I'd say any country would be pleased to have someone with such talent to come in as a replacement when a great opener retires.
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    I'm predicting Jaques to flop as a Test and ODI batsman. You heard it here first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Seems a bit early to be writing off Jaques, doesn't it? I'd be surprised if you knew enough about his batting to judge whether or not he is "overly aggressive", and certainly if you look at the way Hayden has played in the last six months or so, aggressive is the last word you would use to describe it.

    Langer will be a big loss to Australia because he is a great player, and I'll be sad to see him go, but Jaques is a quality batsman and I'd say any country would be pleased to have someone with such talent to come in as a replacement when a great opener retires.
    I'm not writing him off at all - just from what I saw of him in England (and that was quite a bit, thank you mister I'd be surprised if... ) he seemed your typical 21st century archaetypal banger of an opening bat.

    I was comparing him to Langer (as I thought that aussie was - a reasonable mistake to make because any australian who can get the ball off the square in his eyes automatically goes into the world top 5 ) - who really seems to be the last of a dying breed - a 'proper' opening batsman.

    God, some people are so touchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes
    I'm predicting Jaques to flop as a Test and ODI batsman. You heard it here first.
    I certainly wouldn't be willing to stick my neck out and say he definitely will do well. He has a phenomenal domestic record, but I've never really been that impressed by him when I've watched him bat. Having said that, there's plenty of equally ugly batsman who make easy work of it. Hussey is never 100% convincing for me, at least not in tests, and especially when he's facing the new ball, but nobody can question his success.

    If I had to take a stab at it, I'd expect Jaques to have a slow start to his career, and to probably always have a bit of trouble outside off stump early in his innings (like Ponting, say), but to mature and have a long and successful run later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    I'm not writing him off at all - just from what I saw of him in England (and that was quite a bit, thank you mister I'd be surprised if... ) he seemed your typical 21st century archaetypal banger of an opening bat.

    I was comparing him to Langer (as I thought that aussie was - a reasonable mistake to make because any australian who can get the ball off the square in his eyes automatically goes into the world top 5 ) - who really seems to be the last of a dying breed - a 'proper' opening batsman.

    God, some people are so touchy.
    Fair enough. I'll miss Langer being in the team, for much the same reason, but if there's one area of the game Australia can afford to lose an international star right now, it's opening the batting. Jaques and Cosgrove and so on are worthy replacements for anyone. I'd imagine that's what aussie meant, though I think he underrated the value of Langer to the side in the process of saying it.

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    I'm predicting Langer to play on for a while yet. His last act as a batsman will be breaking his hip, while trying to turn the bowler backward of square - upon which his 45 year old son will carry him off the MCG and into the safety of retirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    I'm not writing him off at all - just from what I saw of him in England (and that was quite a bit, thank you mister I'd be surprised if... ) he seemed your typical 21st century archaetypal banger of an opening bat.

    I was comparing him to Langer (as I thought that aussie was - a reasonable mistake to make because any australian who can get the ball off the square in his eyes automatically goes into the world top 5 ) - who really seems to be the last of a dying breed - a 'proper' opening batsman.

    God, some people are so touchy.
    I've been assured by people on this board that Langer is a merely a makeshift opener and an average one at that!

    Jaques is obviously the annointed next opener - the more interesting question is who will he be opening with, and will he and whoever be able to share as good an understanding and partnership as Taylor/Slater, or Hayden/Langer? My guess is that Hussey is the likeliest candidate when both Langer and Hayden have gone, as there are a few more middle order players around than openers, and Hussey's been selected as an opener previously. After that, I'm not sure, Rogers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79
    I've been assured by people on this board that Langer is a merely a makeshift opener and an average one at that!

    Jaques is obviously the annointed next opener - the more interesting question is who will he be opening with, and will he and whoever be able to share as good an understanding and partnership as Taylor/Slater, or Hayden/Langer? My guess is that Hussey is the likeliest candidate when both Langer and Hayden have gone, as there are a few more middle order players around than openers, and Hussey's been selected as an opener previously. After that, I'm not sure, Rogers?
    The selectors would be mad to take Hussey out of the middle order, given how well he's been playing there. But it will be sad to see Langer goes, whenever he does, as he's really been one of my favourite players.
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