View Poll Results: What will the score be in the 2006-07 Ashes series?

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    2 11.76%
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    2 11.76%
  • 4-1 aussies

    4 23.53%
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    5 29.41%
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Thread: Will England Choke in 2006/07 Ashes And wats your best aussieXI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine
    Indeed, not saying MacGill is particularly brilliant, but Giles is rubbish on just about every pitch so by default...
    Of course there've been so many turning surfaces Giles has been rubbish on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00
    MacGills tests at the SCG:

    8 matches, five 5-wicket hauls, 53 wickets at 24.47

    What a shocker....
    As I say - last 7 Tests nowhere near as good - I don't give a damn about 5-wicket hauls, it's average that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Err, pay attention. I used the period you specified... "since 2001".
    I said since Adelaide 2000\01, in fact - the last Test of 2000. Not that it makes a massive difference.
    You said also, however, "over their full careers", and I said that makes no odds to me because MacGill's career can be clearly split into 2 parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    Agreed.

    If he was English, he would make our 'all time' top 5 comfortably. Of the England spinners of my lifetime, I would rate only Laker and Underwood higher.
    Rhodes and Verity were clearly better in their age, too. You seriously rate MacGill above Lock in his age?
    That he's better than most English spinners only says how bowling fingerspin hasn't been a plausible possibility in the last 30 years and more at home. It also, of course, says that England have only had 2 remotely good wristspinners, one of whom lost most of his years to WWII.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Rhodes and Verity were clearly better in their age, too. You seriously rate MacGill above Lock in his age?
    That he's better than most English spinners only says how bowling fingerspin hasn't been a plausible possibility in the last 30 years and more at home. It also, of course, says that England have only had 2 remotely good wristspinners, one of whom lost most of his years to WWII.
    I agree regarding Rhodes and Verity.

    I don't think there's such a clear-cut gulf between MacGill and Lock.
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    Plenty of people argued that there were times Lock was a superior performer to Laker, didn't they? I for one don't find that inconceivable. And I've always had huge respect for Lock for going on so long as he did just to demonstrate his repentance of becoming a chucker temporarily.
    The long line of England left-armers... Peate, Rhodes, Verity, Lock, Underwood (ceases with covered wickets).
    I can't think of any truly great right-arm fingerspinners aside from Laker, interestingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    As I say - last 7 Tests nowhere near as good - I don't give a damn about 5-wicket hauls, it's average that counts.
    Make your mind up:

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    And as I've said countless times, overall averages are relatively meaningless.
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    Try distinguishing between "overall averages" (ie a career in it's entirety) and "averages" (which could - and did in this case - refer to short-term patterns).
    Try again with your manufacturing contradictions...

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    Seemed a fair call to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    As I say - last 7 Tests nowhere near as good - I don't give a damn about 5-wicket hauls, it's average that counts.
    You can't just eliminate something just because it makes your claim look foolish.

    How about this one, i'll prove Bradman was the worst batsman of all time.

    Bradman (using his last test innings)
    0 runs at an average of 0.00.
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    I have a feeling the Aussies will win the first test convincingly and then who knows from there. England will definetly win at least one test, and probably 2. I do not think for one moment we will 'choke' though.
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    Oh and as for my best Aussie X1. At this stage

    Langer
    Hayden
    Pointing
    Hussey
    Gilchrist
    Symonds
    Gillespie
    Warne
    Lee
    Bracken


    Than Im not sure who else....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Plenty of people argued that there were times Lock was a superior performer to Laker, didn't they? I for one don't find that inconceivable. And I've always had huge respect for Lock for going on so long as he did just to demonstrate his repentance of becoming a chucker temporarily.
    The long line of England left-armers... Peate, Rhodes, Verity, Lock, Underwood (ceases with covered wickets).
    I can't think of any truly great right-arm fingerspinners aside from Laker, interestingly.
    It was a quicker ball that went the other way - call it a doosra, if you like.

    He got called for throwing it - end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00
    You can't just eliminate something just because it makes your claim look foolish.

    How about this one, i'll prove Bradman was the worst batsman of all time.

    Bradman (using his last test innings)
    0 runs at an average of 0.00.
    Wow.
    There's a difference between using 7\8ths of something and 1\80th.
    Something I guess most people might just realise.
    I can eliminate whatever I want to prove a point. I have done so. You tried exactly the same thing in eliminating all games elsewhere from The SCG. MacGill in his last 7 Tests at The SCG has been absolutely nothing special - he just had an exceptional 1st game. I happen to think this actually says quite a lot.
    The fact that Bradman in 1 single innings scored 0 means little or nothing.
    Last edited by Richard; 19-03-2006 at 12:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    It was a quicker ball that went the other way - call it a doosra, if you like.

    He got called for throwing it - end of story.
    Eh?
    I got the impression that Lock's action became blatantly and consistently illegal from about 1954, due to protracted bowling under a low roof.
    Never heard anything of it being an alternate delivery.

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