View Poll Results: What will the score be in the 2006-07 Ashes series?

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  • 5-0 Aussies

    1 5.88%
  • 3-2 poms

    2 11.76%
  • 5-0 poms

    2 11.76%
  • 4-1 aussies

    4 23.53%
  • 3-2 Aussies

    5 29.41%
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    0 0%
  • Drawn series

    3 17.65%
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Thread: Will England Choke in 2006/07 Ashes And wats your best aussieXI

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes
    Isn't Somerset practically an ice-rink? I wish him luck, he's gonna need it.
    It looks like they're going to make it a dustbowl for this summer - they'll be playing three spinners minimum (White, Cullen, Blackwell), potentially up to five if you include the all-rounders Suppiah and Durston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney Rubble
    It looks like they're going to make it a dustbowl for this summer - they'll be playing three spinners minimum (White, Cullen, Blackwell), potentially up to five if you include the all-rounders Suppiah and Durston.
    White's more of a batting all-rounder these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    Thornely's the ginger middle order batsman, yeah?

    Cullen's signed for Somerset this summer - will be interesting to see how he gets on.
    Somerset - bowler signed for - Somerset home ground Taunton.
    Bad career move. Full-stop.
    Bowlers have to learn that if they want to develop their game, they're not going to get anywhere playing for Somerset. That applies to fingerspinners even more than seamers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeW
    anyone else think Cullen's overrated?
    Yes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney Rubble
    It looks like they're going to make it a dustbowl for this summer - they'll be playing three spinners minimum (White, Cullen, Blackwell), potentially up to five if you include the all-rounders Suppiah and Durston.
    Easier said than done. You can't just "make" dustbowls like that, you need to do some serious work with the square. And no amount of work with the pitch can do anything about the stupidly short boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeW
    anyone else think Cullen's overrated?
    I'll decide after I've seen him bowl.

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    No need - he's a fingerspinner.
    Fingerspinners don't have success in Australia outside The SCG.
    That's a basic fact of the modern era.

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    So remind us of his record in his first season then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Yes.
    Classic Richard. Declaring a bowler overrated before he's seen him.

    Anyway, Cullen isn't a world beater at this stage of his career by any means, so anyone expecting dominance will be disappointed.

    He is however a very aggressive and talented young spinner, and may well turn out to be quite deadly on a turning pitch. Uses drift well and isn't afraid to go for a few runs to buy a wicket. I'm keen to see how he goes in England as well, though I'm not expecting much if he's playing on a road all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    No need - he's a fingerspinner.
    Fingerspinners don't have success in Australia outside The SCG.
    That's a basic fact of the modern era.
    http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2...27FEB2005.html

    http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2...06MAR2005.html

    Bit of success there, yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    So remind us of his record in his first season then?
    Remind us how many bowlers have had good first seasons (if you can even call taking wickets at 30.37 "good" - I'd call it more merely reasonable) then dropped away?

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    I said no-one has ever had a single good game?
    Sorry, where?
    I said no-one has ever had consistent success in Australia outside The SCG, because it's the only square in Australia that consistently produces turners. Of course you'll get the odd one here and there elsewhere, and of course you'll get the odd instance where a fingerspinner gets a decent bag on a non-turner due to poor strokes, but you'll not get it consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Classic Richard. Declaring a bowler overrated before he's seen him.

    Anyway, Cullen isn't a world beater at this stage of his career by any means, so anyone expecting dominance will be disappointed.

    He is however a very aggressive and talented young spinner, and may well turn out to be quite deadly on a turning pitch. Uses drift well and isn't afraid to go for a few runs to buy a wicket. I'm keen to see how he goes in England as well, though I'm not expecting much if he's playing on a road all the time.
    I certainly wouldn't expect much playing at Taunton.
    Even decent club players could hit the ball into the crowd there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    I said no-one has ever had a single good game?
    Sorry, where?
    I said no-one has ever had consistent success in Australia outside The SCG, because it's the only square in Australia that consistently produces turners. Of course you'll get the odd one here and there elsewhere, and of course you'll get the odd instance where a fingerspinner gets a decent bag on a non-turner due to poor strokes, but you'll not get it consistently.
    Ahh... no you didn`t. You might think adding in words to make an arguement is pretty witty, but I don`t.

    I really don`t understand how you seem to have this supreme judgement on players you`ve never seen before.

    Cullen is far off being an excellent spinner, but he`s a great prospect.
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    If no-one ever judged someone they hadn't seen no-one would ever judge many players.
    It's perfectly possible to make judgements on some players without seeing them.

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