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Originally Posted by Richard
No, he hasn't, he's just been punished less for them. I've watched pretty well, and I've lost count of the number he got away with.
I find it near enough impossible that MacGill could be average for so long then become good at 35 or however old he is.
MacGill is no better than "average", and has been poor since 2000\01 (Third Test).
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I gotta disagree MacGill is better than average, an average spinner would be Giles, Boje & Vetorri (againts most teams other than Australia or in conditions that dont help him), Adams, Karthik etc. MacGill is definately better than all of these bowlers it just that he has been inconsistent. You say he has been poor since the 3rd test vs West Indies 2000/01 to now:
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He has averaged 29 during this time, i cant see how this has been poor.
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Originally Posted by Richard
No more so than 1998\99 to 2000\01.
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Yea i think his form since 2001 has been better since then for the sole reason that he plays spin MUCH better his monumental 178 in colombo proves this. That is an area where he still had problems in between 98/99 to 2000/01
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Originally Posted by Richard
You expect a lot, then.
Tough a WAn as he is - being hit on the head 5 or 6 times (may be more - it's certainly 3 just while batting) will inevitably eventually take it's toll.
Whether that time will be now I'm not sure - something simply tells me it might be.
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When you talking about him being hit, you talking about over his entire career or recently?
If its over his entire career well i'm not sure if it will seriously affect him since he has always been a tough nut to crack.
If its recently as i said the only time he was hit all season whether playing for Australia or WA was in the Jo'burg test while he has gotten other foolish little injuries.
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Originally Posted by Richard
You had that feeling in 2005, too...
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Yea but i was wrong about Hayden then, you & TEC were right. This time i believe the tables will turn.
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Originally Posted by Richard
It generally is, but if you had 5 VERY GOOD bowlers and 2 of them had horror-stories (happened with Kasprowicz and Gillespie in The Ashes - both are undeniably VERY GOOD bowlers, though with Tait and Lee in there with them it reduced Australia's stocks to 3, with Warne).
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No i'm talking about in a match where you play 5 bowlers, not have 5 bowlers in your squad. In this case if in a match you have 5 top bowlers in a match in good form the game should not get away from you.
Its an option but Australia are better of playing the extra batsman, especially looking at the fact that Gilly is declining.
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Originally Posted by Richard
It's a guess to think Lee will bowl well.
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No I think its close to a certainty given the way he has bowled in the Australian summer & in South Africa.