Originally Posted by Spark
I think you'll have noticed that England was actually a **** team for most of that time. Also, a hint: trying to defend a team's less-than-stellar record by pouring **** on another's will win you very few friends here.
Seriously confused at your line of argument, anyway. Are you actually saying that SA's record in knockout tournaments is fine? Despite them having never won a knockout match at the top-flight tournaments since readmission?
How is this relevant?
Normally I dont really care about this whole choking thing I just laugh at how non Saffers related every loss to a choke. BUT this whole thing that England dont choke is a cop out. This whole "England were ****" line does not wash. Its easy to say that in retrospect but beginning and during these tournaments people werent saying England were ****.
Person x says "Ah England have a good bunch of players our record has been great because we won x series in a row - we will have a great tournament.
After England gets knockout of tournament
Person x says "Nah England are **** they never had a chance so its not a chance.