Originally Posted by Prince EWS
I certainly didn't miss the irony in Spoony classing Pietersen's mother as South African because she lives there now even though she was English born and educated.
I did not call his mother a South African. I said nothing about his mother. But he was not raised "English". He is only English when he needs to be like Tony Greig
Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
Would be banter should at least have the merit of orginality, even if wit may be beyond Mr Conn.
See? A sentence about banter that's also banter itself; how wonderfully meta of me.
For the record tho, I don't think anyone is suggesting England would
be better off without Trott or Pietersen; in fact the reverse is demonstrably true.
As for Pietersen being an Afrikaner; is it that cut and dried? As one understands he attended Maritzburg College, which is an Anglo school.
&, FYI, his elder brother Tony is a vicar in Workington
& kid bro (& sometime Notts & Surrey 2nd XI player) Bryan runs a bar in London,
so that would seem to suggest that not all of his family lives in the Republic.
I think you got me wrong. Pietersen is a South African. You tell me if you lived and grew up in England for over 20 years moving to South Africa you suddenly will live the South African way, talk like them, have their humor or attitudes etc etc? No you won't and every time Pietersen opens his mouith and speak his mind you can hear or relate to the Saffer in it.
No one said a thing about Trott playing for England nor would South Africans give him flack about it because Trott did not open his mouth and said why he left ad what is wrong with the system in SA. But the fact he is he got educated in South Africa and went through our system and represented SA youth teams. I don't care if his brother is Prince Harry or he shagged the queen or his passport said GBR the fact is he grew up here and that makes him and always will make him a South African. Like a professional he just moved on to greener pastures. Its not WWII anymore and patriotism is a thing long gone in the professional world. Fans just don't realize that or they do realize it but just use it in terms of banter. Banter is what makes sport and the discussions around it so great and enjoyable. After all people from England are the best in it and they will most times take the pissout of their own team than what opposing fans would.