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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinzan View Post
    Wait wasn't it against pace that Angelo fans were lauding him as the best going around against prior to Wagner making him look like a total Muppet? It's now spin is it?
    Yeah people raved about him against pace due to his heroics in England mainly, he was never flagged as a spin mug to be fair, but definitely don't remember many screaming about him been some sort of master against spin before Yesterday. Slight overreaction I think. Numerous batsmen I'd take over him v spin. Root, Kane, Smith, Sarfraz, (who Pakisan decided to hide down the order in a spin dominated world cup)
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    Joe v Kane to decide the World's best batter


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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Joe v Kane to decide the World's best batter
    Honestly think Joe > Kane marginally. Just the better all-round player across all 3 formats if I'm honest.

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    Yeah, no objection to that call. He's all class, and his knock in the SA game in this tournament was incredible.

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    It's so close that people will be saying the opposite if Kane fires NZ to victory and Root goes cheaply on the day. In other words, it's close enough that it comes down to personal preference.

    BTW, Virat is ahead of both in limited-overs formats.
    Last edited by vcs; 27-03-2016 at 04:03 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinzan View Post
    Wait wasn't it against pace that Angelo fans were lauding him as the best going around against prior to Wagner making him look like a total Muppet? It's now spin is it?
    He's good against swing and spin....Wagner-type bowler is the most likely to get him out
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    Think with KW we're starting to see that he's so focused on the match result that his dedication to the craftmanship of batting is not as much a focus as it once was.

    Probably the same with Virat too.

    There's now more of a pragmatism as opposed the the purity we'd been seeing in the first few years. Don't get me wrong, batting well is still the best way to win matches, but the short term method to winning matches may slightly override long term batting awesomeness.

    Reckon Root has retained the pure batting motivation slightly more and is likely to come out tops as a batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    Think with KW we're starting to see that he's so focused on the match result that his dedication to the craftmanship of batting is not as much a focus as it once was.

    Probably the same with Virat too.

    There's now more of a pragmatism as opposed the the purity we'd been seeing in the first few years. Don't get me wrong, batting well is still the best way to win matches, but the short term method to winning matches may slightly override long term batting awesomeness.

    Reckon Root has retained the pure batting motivation slightly more and is likely to come out tops as a batsman.
    There's some truth to KW batting with a little bit more restriction and preoccupation with the added responsibility of captaincy, one of the reasons I initially felt it may have come a year or two early.

    But even before then I felt Root edged him out slightly. Nothing between them at Test & ODI level, but Root is the more likely to destroy T20 attacks.

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    Both the teams are very good, the match would be very much interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinzan View Post
    But even before then I felt Root edged him out slightly. Nothing between them at Test & ODI level, but Root is the more likely to destroy T20 attacks.
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    KW is ranked 6th in the world for T20 batting, Root is ranked 53rd. Root is a great batsman but KW is so far ahead of him in this regard it's not even a contest. There are three batsmen from Scotland ranked higher than Root in this format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiviktor81 View Post
    LGICCRANKINGS.COM

    KW is ranked 6th in the world for T20 batting, Root is ranked 53rd. Root is a great batsman but KW is so far ahead of him in this regard it's not even a contest. There are three batsmen from Scotland ranked higher than Root in this format.
    Just a brilliant example of when ranking systems have no bearing on actual reality due to small sample size, place in the batting order, where games were played etc.

    Your mentioning of the 3 Scots only emphasises this point.
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    You're kidding if you think there's 52 batsmen better than Root in this format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusum_parjapat View Post
    Both the teams are very good, the match would be very much interesting.
    Can't argue with that.
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