Group 1 Second Round - Sri Lanka, England, South Africa, New Zealand, Netherlands

[Jono]

Only thing I'd agree with Broad on is that being fined for what he said is pathetic. Unless I've missed something he only said it was average decision-making, yes? Same as he'd say an umpire got it wrong for not giving out a nick off a teenaged left-arm orthodox that veers at left angles to slip.

 

[Adders]

Same as he'd say an umpire got it wrong for not giving out a nick off a teenaged left-arm orthodox that veers at left angles to slip.

He did, and just ftr.......it got to first slip via a bigger nick off Brad Haddins gloves than Broads bat..

That clarified, I do agree with your comments on Broad over this incident. It was a stupid thing to say and whilst I don't think it warranted a fine it certainly warrants the stick he's been getting over it.

It's a **** way to lose a game but of course there is no doubt that if the situations were reversed then Broads concern for the players and supporters would have been diluted somewhat.

 

[SteveNZ]

He did, and just ftr.......it got to first slip via a bigger nick off Brad Haddins gloves than Broads bat..

That clarified, I do agree with your comments on Broad over this incident. It was a stupid thing to say and whilst I don't think it warranted a fine it certainly warrants the stick he's been getting over it.

It's a **** way to lose a game but of course there is no doubt that if the situations were reversed then Broads concern for the players and supporters would have been diluted somewhat.

Quite right on the gloves, I just thought the left angles thing suited my post better.

Yeah it's a bit of a pet peeve of mine, such one-eyed viewpoints on incidents, and even more so when an obedient (usually local) media picks it up and runs with it without challenge.

Poor old Stuey, the lil lamb spent all winter running away from thunderbolts out of Johnson's hand and now he's got lightning and flash flooding to contend with as well. Someone tell him to stay away from Noah at the movie theatre (even ignoring that Russell Crowe is in it)

 

[Jono]

Quality from you in this thread Steve.

 

[Burgey]

Amazing? (Patent Pending)

 

[Jono]

See Group 2 T20 thread, I called Bhuv Kumar's bowling amazing.

 

[hendrix]

Rubbish. Here's a direct quote: 'I think it was distinctly average decision-making keeping us on after the first lightning strike at the start of the fifth over, keeping us on throughout that," Broad said. "That over has obviously given us a loss.'

I believe his point was that they should not have played the last over when lightning had already been sighted? Arguing that play should have stopped then, and the lightning was visible before the end of the 5th over.

Play should stop if it's dangerous.

But that didn't cost them the game.

What cost them the game was the fact that his over went for 16. That had nothing to do with lightning. Broad had just as much opportunity to win the game for England as McCullum.

 

[GIMH]

Tbf to Broad he claims the NZ players agree with him

 

[Jono]

What cost them the game was the fact that his over went for 16. That had nothing to do with lightning. Broad had just as much opportunity to win the game for England as McCullum.

I want to preface this by saying that I agree that its sour grapes to complain considering he wouldn't had he won, but Broad can easily argue that having to bowl/field in the lightning is distracting and caused him to bowl poo. Its unlikely, but its not ridiculous that bowling or fielding during lightning can put you off your game and result in you being hit for 16.

Of course same can be said for the batsmen, no doubt. Fear of being struck is real though imo.

 

[hendrix]

Tbf to Broad he claims the NZ players agree with him

The NZ players agree that the game shouldn't have been played in lightning because it's dangerous. Not that it cost England the game.

 

[GIMH]

The NZ players agree that the game shouldn't have been played in lightning because it's dangerous. Not that it cost England the game.

Fundamentally the same thing. If they had taken them off when they should have, the game is a no result. I wouldn't blame the weather for the result in as much as I don't believe it affected the performance but the fact is they shouldn't have been out there.

DL is farcical in T20 as well but I think we all know that. Favours chasing sides far too much.

 

[hendrix]

Fundamentally the same thing. If they had taken them off when they should have, the game is a no result.

"If they hadn't completed the game, they wouldn't have lost"?
Well sure, if that's what Broad and the NZ players agree on. It's very hard to lose a game that has no result...

Broad has said that playing the last over cost England the game. Well, yes it did, but it could also have won them the game. That it didn't has nothing to do with the umpires.

 

[Zinzan]

Slightly negative decision to bowl first given it's an afternoon as opposed to an evening game? Will dew be a factor in an a couple of hours time when SA bowl (5.30pm local)?

 

[Bahnz]

That Southee-Boult bit was the most efficient summation of their bowling partnership I've ever seen

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Yeah, sounds strange.

 

[Bahnz]

Mills: first over specialist.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

That soothing voice of Danny Morrison gets me every time

 

[Flem274*]

just came in to post how much i love morrison

 

[Bahnz]

Haha, was just about to post that listening to his commentary makes me want to eat my own hand to distract myself from the agony that is his commentary.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Millsey! Good over that