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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Anderson, Neesham, Ronchi is fine as a 5-7.
    Just a hint of Flem's anti-Ronchi bias showing through here. Ronchi should definitely be batting ahead of Neesham at least. However, I don't think any of the batting positioning outside of the top 4 is going to matter too much. KW, Guptill, McCullum and Taylor are our only 4 batsmen that are proven at building big LO innings. If we lose all of them inside the first 10 overs, I really don't think the exact order of the rest of the batsmen is likely to make that big a difference.

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    Nah Ronchi's an idiot frankly. One of the least adaptable and versatile minds in NZ cricket, which is saying something.
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    I like how everyone has jumped on my order of the 5-7 which was written at random (keeper at 7 is becoming convention even if they can float around a bit - watling is a better test batsman than anderson but he still gets listed at 7) as me having a dig at ronchi rather than my gajillion posts blatantly calling him a one paced inconsistent bowl of icing back when people were suggesting him for the test team, or when i barracked for watling in the odi side ahead of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    I like how everyone has jumped on my order of the 5-7 which was written at random (keeper at 7 is becoming convention even if they can float around a bit - watling is a better test batsman than anderson but he still gets listed at 7) as me having a dig at ronchi rather than my gajillion posts blatantly calling him a one paced inconsistent bowl of icing back when people were suggesting him for the test team, or when i barracked for watling in the odi side ahead of him.
    Really? I thought people had been calling you out on your irrational hatred of Ronchi for ages...ftr I still reckon that in the short term Ronchi would probably do better in the test match no. 6 spot than any domestic batsman not named Ryder.
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    Yeah, agree with that.

    In other news, this is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    Yeah, agree with that.

    In other news, this is awesome.
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    Haha, yes. Although I think it might be a slightly depressing exercise to work out how old Williamson was when Cricket Max was a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    Haha, yes. Although I think it might be a slightly depressing exercise to work out how old Williamson was when Cricket Max was a thing.
    1996-1999ish?

    So 6-9yo.

    Yep, depressing.

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    According to the Sky Guide they aren't showing tonight's warm-up match against Australia.

    Bummer!

    Netherlands vs Zimbabwe however.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Really? I thought people had been calling you out on your irrational hatred of Ronchi for ages...ftr I still reckon that in the short term Ronchi would probably do better in the test match no. 6 spot than any domestic batsman not named Ryder.
    that's more of a relfection of the quality of our domestic batsmen rather than Ronchi's quality. i would also take brownlie and latham ahead of him off the top of my head.

    i don't hate him, i just don't think he's better than watling, cut out to be a specialist test batsman, or should have been allowed to play for NZ in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiWiNiNjA View Post
    According to the Sky Guide they aren't showing tonight's warm-up match against Australia.

    Bummer!

    Netherlands vs Zimbabwe however.....
    Yeah, looks like it's not being televised period...

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    Incidentally, not great signs for NZ in the first warm-up game. We really seem to struggle with the bat in Bangladesh conditions, more so than in India which is strange as you'd think sub-continent conditions are effectively the same. Ryder is obviously a huge loss in this format as one of those x-factor players of which form & pitch conditions are close to irrelevant. For me B-Mac needs to step-up to open (as opposed to 3) and Williamson can be there as a kind of a floater (depending on what happens), if at all.

    I'm clutching at straws here, but if NZ were going into this tournament with Ryder, Vettori & Milne as options, I'd give us a genuine chance. Without them we have no top-class spin options (sorry NcCullum & Hira), no genuine pace options and are thin in terms of explosive top-order batsmen. That coupled with the fact we struggle in Bangladesh conditions at the best of times doesn't fill me with much confidence or expectations this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinzan View Post
    For me B-Mac needs to step-up to open (as opposed to 3) and Williamson can be there as a kind of a floater (depending on what happens), if at all.
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    AWTA - wouldn't even play Kane - there is no place for a consolidator or anchor man in T20 and I reckon the 50 he will score off 43 balls in one game will be too slow in the scheme of things.
    We have a raft of middle order batsman/sloggers and should play all of them instead.
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    So they are playing a 20/20, 5/5, and a 1/1.

    3 matches in one day! The future is now!!

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    You guys are seriously overratting Ronchi's batsmanship based on one good domestic season. Throughout his (long) career he's always been very much a pinch hitter.

    There are at least 3 guys who'd be better as test number 6 batsmen than him.

    For a start, the status quo in Anderson is better. Flynn would also be better. Neesham is nowhere near a test number 6 yet but i'd say he's about the same level as Ronchi.

    Even Guptill would probably be better.

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