View Poll Results: What fate is worse?

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  • Not qualifying

    8 66.67%
  • Going out in the group stage

    1 8.33%
  • Where on earth are you from?

    2 16.67%
  • We're from England

    0 0%
  • Where you come from do you put the kettle on?

    1 8.33%
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    My fellow Englishmen...

    One of our number, in that blind, flailing way of his, has raised an important question:

    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    We didn't qualify for this World Cup iirc
    So what is worse? Failing to make it at all or being all sucky when we get there and going out in straight sets.

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    The most enjoyable tournament in living memory for me was Euro 2008. Read into that what you will.

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    Trapattoni got far more abuse when Ireland bombed at Euro 2012 than any other manager got for failing to qualify. I think a lot of fans would genuinely prefer to just not make it.

    With Ireland I feel like I can still look back on that one great moment from a horrible tournament and feel good about it. Maybe it's because I'm less emotionally invested, because I couldn't do that with United at all.

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    Actually, I remember being absolutely delighted when England somehow managed to fail to avoid defeat against Croatia in McDonut's last match in charge, and missed out on qualification for Euro 2008 as a result. Mainly because had England qualified, he would have probably managed to keep hold of his job, and I was desperate to see him get the sack.


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    They lost to Croatia though.

    I would say qualifying and embarrassing yourselves is a lot worse than just not qualifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    They lost to Croatia though.
    So? It wasn't like they drew with the Faroe Islands.

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    I watched the Graham Taylor 'Impossible Job' documentary on YouTube yesterday (can we not knock it?) and it reminded me of the sheer horror of not qualifying for 94. Jokes aside I do think that's worse.

    However, if you don't qualify I think it's easier to enjoy the tournament than if you flop early on. I realise not everyone is the same but it took me a good 4/5 days to get back into the swing of watching this WC once we went out, whereas had we not qualified I'd have probably enjoyed it more.

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    Surely you'd rather fail against a higher quality of team than fail against Andorra, Moldova et al.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    Actually, I remember being absolutely delighted when England somehow managed to fail to avoid defeat against Croatia in McDonut's last match in charge, and missed out on qualification for Euro 2008 as a result. Mainly because had England qualified, he would have probably managed to keep hold of his job, and I was desperate to see him get the sack.
    Don't get this logic. I can't think of a realistic scenario where I wouldn't want my country to win. My opinions on the staff or players are irrelevant towards that cause.

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    I would trust Furball's judgement on this, he has plenty of experience of both
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    What if all the switches get stuck on 'destroy'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeman27bob View Post
    Surely you'd rather fail against a higher quality of team than fail against Andorra, Moldova et al.?
    Better to die quick and early rather than die slowly, over a prolonged period, and repeatedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    I would trust Furball's judgement on this, he has plenty of experience of both
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    Better to be a has been than a never was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    I would trust Furball's judgement on this, he has plenty of experience of both
    Other than the Italy game in 2007, my worst Scotland memory is the 3-0 defeat to Morroco at the 1998 World Cup. Luckily in the other 2 major tournaments I can remember we've at least given a decent account of ourselves; 1998 was garbage.

    If we ever qualify again, I want us to give a decent account of ourselves. If we go to a tournament and tank a la England I'd rather not qualify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    Other than the Italy game in 2007, my worst Scotland memory is the 3-0 defeat to Morroco at the 1998 World Cup.
    Where does this rank in your all time direness stakes?

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