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[Scaly piscine]

BBC Sport - Olympics badminton: Fans jeer errors in doubles match


Sounds distinctly dodgy - longest rally 4 shots.

[Jono]

Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

BBC Sport - Olympics badminton: Fans jeer errors in doubles match


Sounds distinctly dodgy - longest rally 4 shots.

The system is at fault for that, not the players. They created this problem by changing it from a knockout to groups which they normally never do.

You reep what you sow. The players were just being smart about creating the best possible draw for them.

[social]

Seem to remember some Pakistanis being sent to jail for bowling a couple of no-balls and in the process defrauding the public etc

As this is far worse, it will be interesting to see how long the Chinese and Koreans spend in the big house

[Jono]

Originally Posted by social

Seem to remember some Pakistanis being sent to jail for bowling a couple of no-balls and in the process defrauding the public etc

As this is far worse, it will be interesting to see how long the Chinese and Koreans spend in the big house

What? You can't actually think that?

People manipulate results in group-phase tournaments all the time.

[social]

Originally Posted by Jono

What? You can't actually think that?

People manipulate results in group-phase tournaments all the time.

It's faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar worse

The Pakistanis bowled a few no-balls for cash

There is no evidence that they tried to alter the course of an innings let alone match or series

These guys have not only tried to fix matches but also alter the course of an entire competition

They have ripped off the public and stand to benefit financially from it

Given the precedent, they should, at the very least, be subject to a criminal investigation

It wont happen but that's simply because the IOC is inherently corrupt and the British Gov"t wont risk an international incident

[Jono]

Firstly, on the facts so far, there is no involvement of bookies. That immediately makes it better.

Secondly, how is it that much different to South Africa manipulating the run rate against New Zealand back in 2001 (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) to ensure Australia missed out on playing in the final in the Australia tri-series?

Such an overreaction. Its a disgrace that it happened, and full blame should go on the organisers.

[Spikey]

Aus did the same in the 99 WC.

It's a nothing thing unless it turns out they got paid by bookmakers or the like to do it

[Jono]

Yeah exactly.

[Spikey]

I mean, I guess you could say they didn't, because Aus still won, but the point is, in the final group match they changed how they performed in an attempt to benefit in the knockout matches. and it's just common sense to do so

[Jono]

What about swimmers that don't swim their fastest in the heats?

[Johnners]

Originally Posted by Jono

What about swimmers that don't swim their fastest in the heats?

I don't entirely agree with social (I do think it was a bit poor), but this is a rubbish comparison. It's done to conserve energy, not to try and manipulate who they may or may not have to compete against further on in the event.

[vic_orthdox]

Originally Posted by Johnners

I don't entirely agree with social (I do think it was a bit poor), but this is a rubbish comparison. It's done to conserve energy, not to try and manipulate who they may or may not have to compete against further on in the event.

Both are done to give themselves the best chance of winning gold.

[Spark]

Originally Posted by Johnners

I don't entirely agree with social (I do think it was a bit poor), but this is a rubbish comparison. It's done to conserve energy, not to try and manipulate who they may or may not have to compete against further on in the event.

Still fundamentally the same, isn't it? Perform below your absolute best to put yourself in a better position later on.

[Jono]

Originally Posted by Johnners

I don't entirely agree with social (I do think it was a bit poor), but this is a rubbish comparison. It's done to conserve energy, not to try and manipulate who they may or may not have to compete against further on in the event.

Break it down though. We are saying they robbed the public because they didn't try their hardest to win.

What is the difference?

Are you going to throw a swimmer in jail because they swam 1.5 seconds slower in the heat, didn't come anywhere close to their fastest time, but just did the minimum to qualify to give themselves an advantage over their competitors?

Your claim that its a rubbish comparison is overstating it. Its far from rubbish, and I guarantee you its an argument that would be used if they were thrown in front of a judge (which is the suggestion that is actually rubbish in this thread)

[Jono]

I heard Social also wants Dean Bailey thrown in jail.