**Official** Super 8 Group 1 Discussion - Eng, WI, SL and NZ

[Bahnz]

140. So do New Zealand now go all out and risk losing by trying to get the runs as quickly as they can, or do they play it safe and bank on England getting thumped by SL?

 

[Athlai]

Someone to calculate how fast we need to do this to get through even if SL only win by 1 run.

 

[Athlai]

140. So do New Zealand now go all out and risk losing by trying to get the runs as quickly as they can, or do they play it safe and bank on England getting thumped by SL?

The NRR difference doesn't seem that big tbh.

 

[Meridio]

140. So do New Zealand now go all out and risk losing by trying to get the runs as quickly as they can, or do they play it safe and bank on England getting thumped by SL?

We won't need SL to really thump England - because we tied with SL, our NRR is relatively good. If we can chase this score comfortably (big if), then any SL victory should be enough.

Would be way better if we could have had points for a tie though. Don't really see the need for an eliminator when it's a round robin game.

Anyway, good recovery by our bowlers/terrible batting by WI. Problem is of course our batting from 6 down, plus Nicol, is crap, so if WI get early wickets they'll still be in with a decent chance.

 

[Scaly piscine]

The difference between England and NZ's NRR is literally about 6 runs.

If you add 6 runs to England's Against element the run rate suffers by 0.15. Which is almost the gap between the two sides.

So winning by 5-6 balls, maybe 3-4 balls if you passed the total by extra runs should eliminate net run-rate as a factor. Barring weird D/L adjustments.

 

[Athlai]

Yeah my rough calculations saw us sail through if we do it by an over. And realistically England losing will see us winning at all get us through at this point.

 

[Bahnz]

We won't need SL to really thump England - because we tied with SL, our NRR is relatively good. If we can chase this score comfortably (big if), then any SL victory should be enough.

Would be way better if we could have had points for a tie though. Don't really see the need for an eliminator when it's a round robin game.

Anyway, good recovery by our bowlers/terrible batting by WI. Problem is of course our batting from 6 down, plus Nicol, is crap, so if WI get early wickets they'll still be in with a decent chance.

Wouldn't really help us. England would have to absolutely steam-roll SL for us to have a chance of surpassing their NRR.

 

[Daemon]

Pretty gun how this tournament is still wide open

 

[Athlai]

If SL win via a tie super over we'd need to win with 6 balls to spare. 5 balls to spare seems to leave us basically level with England.

C'arn NZ.
C'arn SL.

 

[Howsie]

Calm down Bish, Nicol doesnt really count as a loss.

 

[Daemon]

how awesome is it that they're playing GnR at the stadium

 

[Bahnz]

This is just a dreadful start.

 

[Bahnz]

Better that over, putting away the 4 ball and milking the rest.

 

[straw man]

Really didn't need that from McCullum. Six an over was fine for now.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Oh dear.

At least if NZ lose I will get some sleep.

 

[straw man]

Oh dear.

At least if NZ lose I will get some sleep.

yes that could be happening quite soon

 

[Bahnz]

Guptill, ugh. It's so bizarre to watch a player who looks so awesome in the V, and so **** everywhere else.

 

[BackFootPunch]

Just yuck from Guppy. Carn Franko, take us home.

 

[straw man]

You know, Williamson would be pretty handy in a low chase after we lose early wickets

 

[Bahnz]

New Zealand desperately need Franklin to come off here. He's the player we have who can really murder mediocre spinners.