Pakistan most fluke team (and discussion about tournament structure fairness) - Page 3

Burgey · 10-05-2010, 03:52 AM

Thirdman1 to last 6 weeks tops.

Seriously mate, settle down or take it elsewhere. We're all full up of crazy here already.

Xuhaib · 10-05-2010, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirdman1

And who did Ireland beat to reach super 6? Bangladesh.

you can only beat what you have infront of you.

Faisal1985 · 10-05-2010, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirdman1

I mean in 2009 also they just won 1 match against major nations and reached semi-final. And in 2010 also there is chance of winning against SA and reaching semi-finals .

Entire format of this tournament needs to be changed

And if Pak is getting advantage of the whole system then why single them out. All teams are part of the same system...

However, the Semi final of 2009 and the Final of 2009 were no flukes....they were pretty comprehensive wins as far as i see it.

Faisal1985 · 10-05-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirdman1

Lol We haven't won a trophy by fluke yet.
In 1983 WC also we defeated WI twice
In 1986 champions trophy we defeated everybody
In 2002 champions trophy we defeated everbody
In 2007 T20 WC we defeated everybody except NZ and beat you guys twice.

And what you did in 1992 WC and 2009 T20 WC was win few games and win the trophy

What's up with this you and me?

I would very well call that full toss, scooped by Misbah in 2007 a fluke win for India....that Sharma guy is no where to be seen in the Indian team now....

Sanz · 10-05-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lostman

The SAvs Pak game would be a must win game for SA.
So that means we can already count it as a SA loss.

Sanz · 10-05-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirdman1

You were saved by rain from elimination against England in 1992 WC.

Late by 18 years on this one. Anyone who watched the WC 1992 wont call Pakistan's Victory as 'Fluke'. I

NasserFan207 · 10-05-2010, 10:42 AM

The flukiest championship run of all time is still on!

Teja. · 10-05-2010, 10:44 AM

The 1992 WC win by Pakistan was one of the most inspirational comeback performances in the history of One-day International Cricket IMO.

ret · 10-05-2010, 10:47 AM

Pak improves its chances for the semis, depends up on the Eng-NZ game's result

If Pak makes it to the semis, once again they would have done it by beating just one major team in two rounds

.... Last time, they went through by beating just one major team (NZ) in two rounds

If NZ doesn't make it then have to feel sorry for it as it has played some cool cricket so far, i.e. beat SL (chasing) and Pak (defending a low total)

marc71178 · 10-05-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanz

Late by 18 years on this one. Anyone who watched the WC 1992 wont call Pakistan's Victory as 'Fluke'. I

To be fair, they did only make the semis because of that rain, but from that point on they were unstoppable.

Sir Alex · 10-05-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GingerFurball

No, every game is equally important.

Really? Then how come a team that has won 2 and lost 3 are making it te the semi? Isn't the purpose of group matches to find the best 4 teams in the tournament? Are you suggesting a team that beat Bangladesh and now an out of sorts South Africa, but has lost to NZ, Eng and Aus deserve the semis?

NasserFan207 · 10-05-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Really? Then how come a team that has won 2 and lost 3 are making it te the semi? Isn't the purpose of group matches to find the best 4 teams in the tournament? Are you suggesting a team that beat Bangladesh and now an out of sorts South Africa, but has lost to NZ, Eng and Aus deserve the semis?

Calm down.

Its the same rules for everyone.

Sir Alex · 10-05-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ret

Pak improves its chances for the semis, depends up on the Eng-NZ game's result

If Pak makes it to the semis, once again they would have done it by beating just one major team in two rounds

.... Last time, they went through by beating just one major team (NZ) in two rounds

If NZ doesn't make it then have to feel sorry for it as it has played some cool cricket so far, i.e. beat SL (chasing) and Pak (defending a low total)

They have won more matches than Pakistan and yet could be out of the tournament. What a joke!

They must have carry forward in the prelim group stages.

Lostman · 10-05-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lostman

The SAvs Pak game would be a must win game for SA.
So that means we can already count it as a SA loss.

SA are $$$.
They are every gamblers dream team.

Faisal1985 · 10-05-2010, 11:02 AM

I just wonder if people would show the same level of criticism if it was any other team in the position that Pak is.

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ret International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: canada Posts: 2,890	Pak improves its chances for the semis, depends up on the Eng-NZ game's result If Pak makes it to the semis, once again they would have done it by beating just one major team in two rounds .... Last time, they went through by beating just one major team (NZ) in two rounds If NZ doesn't make it then have to feel sorry for it as it has played some cool cricket so far, i.e. beat SL (chasing) and Pak (defending a low total) __________________ Fastest gun in town Last edited by ret; 10-05-2010 at 10:49 AM.

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