Page 6 of 21 FirstFirst ... 4567816 ... LastLast
Results 76 to 90 of 306

Thread: The Michael Clarke appreciation thread

  1. #76
    Virat Kohli (c) Jono's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    54,801
    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Better stopper f the ball at backward point tbh.

    Honestly, can't believe anyone could say Clarke > Dhoni at T20s, or ODIs for that matter.
    Haha, that's why I said with batting

    But yeah I agree, I just don't buy the "there's room for conventional batsman and slap and hope players" because that's like saying anyone who scores at a higher strike rate than Clarke must be slap and hope. Raina isn't slap and hope, neither is Morgan, Dhoni, Watson etc. They play cricket strokes, just they're much better than Clarke.

    No one is saying you need a team full of Yusuf Pathans. But Clarke wouldn't make the 3rd best T20 world XI in my honest opinion. He hasn't proved anything at domestic or international level. At least Dhoni has proven it at domestic.
    "I am very happy and it will allow me to have lot more rice."

    Eoin Morgan on being given a rice cooker for being Man of the Match in a Dhaka Premier Division game.

  2. #77
    Request Your Custom Title Now! benchmark00's Avatar
    Tournaments Won: 1
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Is this CricketWeb's greatest poster in the short history of the forum?
    Posts
    37,156
    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Haha, that's why I said with batting

    But yeah I agree, I just don't buy the "there's room for conventional batsman and slap and hope players" because that's like saying anyone who scores at a higher strike rate than Clarke must be slap and hope. Raina isn't slap and hope, neither is Morgan, Dhoni, Watson etc. They play cricket strokes, just they're much better than Clarke.

    No one is saying you need a team full of Yusuf Pathans. But Clarke wouldn't make the 3rd best T20 world XI in my honest opinion. He hasn't proved anything at domestic or international level. At least Dhoni has proven it at domestic.
    Nah you've missed the point, dude.

    The reason why these players can score at such a high scoring rate is because if it doesn't come off there are other players such as Clarke and MHussey who can still post a competitive total.

    I'm not saying Clarke is better than Dhoni at t20's, I called you on your outrageous call of Dhoni is 50 times better. If he was he'd have a 50 times better strike rate, average etc. Just a stupid call.

    So he's not in the best 18 batsmen in the world in t20? So what. He still has a ROLE to play within the Australian team.

    And calling Clarke on his lack of t20 domestic form is irrelevant, he's only played 5 or so domestic games hasn't he?
    Parmi | #1 draft pick | Jake King is **** | Big Bash League tipping champion of the universe
    Come and Paint Turtle
    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Kohli. Do something in test cricket for once please.

    Thanks.

  3. #78
    You'll Never Walk Alone Nate's Avatar
    Bowling tgfg Champion! Carmageddon Champion! Rainman Champion! DTunnel Champion!
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    New South Wales
    Posts
    26,932
    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Nnanden, please do not publically accuse people of having multiple accounts.
    You're Sir Alex!
    Jesus saves

    proudly supporting Liverpool FC

  4. #79
    Virat Kohli (c) Jono's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    54,801
    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Nah you've missed the point, dude.

    The reason why these players can score at such a high scoring rate is because if it doesn't come off there are other players such as Clarke and MHussey who can still post a competitive total.

    I'm not saying Clarke is better than Dhoni at t20's, I called you on your outrageous call of Dhoni is 50 times better. If he was he'd have a 50 times better strike rate, average etc. Just a stupid call.

    So he's not in the best 18 batsmen in the world in t20? So what. He still has a ROLE to play within the Australian team.

    And calling Clarke on his lack of t20 domestic form is irrelevant, he's only played 5 or so domestic games hasn't he?
    Haven't debated with Benchy in ages, I'm pretty excited

    The problem I have with saying Clarke fills a role, is that his role isn't hard. There are other batsman who can play that role in Australia (and the world) and THEN also be able to launch if/when required. Clarke has only one way of batting, that's silly for a team that has the potential to be the best T20 team in the world.

    If Clarke was one of the best 6 T20 batsman in Australia, this would be less of an issue, as it would just meant he sucked but there are no better options. But there clearly are.

    Finally, I don't believe I'm missing the point because your post defended Clarke by saying that there is room for "slap and hope" players as well as "classical stroke play". But there are players who are "classical stroke play" batsman, that score at a much faster rate than Clarke. Watson is the best example. Just bats like he always bats, except he's actually good. Dhoni too, whislt his batting style isn't classical, his mindset is. He pushes and nudges, and hits boundaries when its necessary. Times his innings to perfection. No way can you ever suggest Clarke times his innings well, even when he bats with other players who are ripping it on the other end. Clarke doesn't rotate the strike enough.

    WIth regards to Clarke's domestic T20s, isn't that the point? The guy doesn't play Big Bash, he doesn't play IPL (because he believes he's worth over $1mill apparently)... how is the guy actually going to improve his T20 ability if he doesn't play? Yet he's captain of a team which I believe should be the best in the world.

    Just makes no sense.


  5. #80
    Request Your Custom Title Now! benchmark00's Avatar
    Tournaments Won: 1
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Is this CricketWeb's greatest poster in the short history of the forum?
    Posts
    37,156
    Look, the simple fact is that imo Clarke is being used in a poor fashion. He shouldn't be coming in when they have massive momentum, but that's not to say he doesn't have a role to play.

    Who are you suggesting in Australia could play the role he should be playing? You mentioned Watson but he's allready in the team.

    FTR, I wasn't referring to anyone in particular when I said slap and hope, it was merely a term I coined to describe that there is a place for the two extremes in a t20 team.

    I don't think he's too bad at rotating the strike itbt, well at least not getting hugely bogged down. His problem when compared to the really good t20 players is that he doesn't hit enough boundaries.

  6. #81
    Request Your Custom Title Now! benchmark00's Avatar
    Tournaments Won: 1
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Is this CricketWeb's greatest poster in the short history of the forum?
    Posts
    37,156
    Besides, being a Richmond fan I thought you'd be used to the idea of having mediocrity in a team

  7. #82
    Virat Kohli (c) Jono's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    54,801
    These are the Australian players I think would be better suited to the Australian T20 team:

    Hodge (obviously no chance of being selected)
    Hopes (is he injured?)
    Marsh
    Paine
    Voges
    Ferguson (injured still I think?)
    Bailey
    Rana Naved-ul-Hasan

  8. #83
    Virat Kohli (c) Jono's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    54,801
    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Besides, being a Richmond fan I thought you'd be used to the idea of having mediocrity in a team
    So brutal


    but I have no ability to retort

  9. #84
    Request Your Custom Title Now! benchmark00's Avatar
    Tournaments Won: 1
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Is this CricketWeb's greatest poster in the short history of the forum?
    Posts
    37,156
    Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls for t20 captaincy.

  10. #85
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    991
    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post

    WIth regards to Clarke's domestic T20s, isn't that the point? The guy doesn't play Big Bash, he doesn't play IPL (because he believes he's worth over $1mill apparently)... how is the guy actually going to improve his T20 ability if he doesn't play? Yet he's captain of a team which I believe should be the best in the world.

    Just makes no sense.
    Where did you hear this?

  11. #86
    Virat Kohli (c) Jono's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    54,801
    Whilst in 2008 he didn't play IPL for family and national reasons, last year he didn't play because he valued himself at US$1 mill, which no one was willing to pay (with good reason).

    Clarke prices himself out of IPL | The Daily Telegraph
    Pup prices himself out of IPL market - Cricket - Fox Sports

  12. #87
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    991
    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Whilst in 2008 he didn't play IPL for family and national reasons, last year he didn't play because he valued himself at US$1 mill, which no one was willing to pay (with good reason).

    Clarke prices himself out of IPL | The Daily Telegraph
    Pup prices himself out of IPL market - Cricket - Fox Sports
    I suppose you have your reasons for making up things and I'm not interested why.

    But man you reek of hatred.

  13. #88
    International Regular Bobisback's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    3,655
    Nice news articles Jono. Well written.
    Quote Originally Posted by Partyush
    I didn't call you a fat bitch. So pipe down.

  14. #89
    Cricket Web: All-Time Legend andyc's Avatar
    Yeti Sports 1.5 Champion!
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    23,853
    Quote Originally Posted by Streetwise View Post
    I suppose you have your reasons for making up things and I'm not interested why.

    But man you reek of hatred.
    You're clearly just trying to troll with posts like this Streetwise, and given your history I'd strongly suggest that you either contribute positively to the discussion or don't contribute at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Only a bunch of convicts having been beaten 3-0 and gone 9 tests without a win and won just 1 in 11 against England could go into the home series saying they will win. England will win in Australia again this winter as they are a better side which they have shown this summer. 3-0 doesn't lie girls.

  15. #90
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    991
    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post
    You're clearly just trying to troll with posts like this Streetwise, and given your history I'd strongly suggest that you either contribute positively to the discussion or don't contribute at all.
    Michael Clarke released a statement on why he withdrew before the auction and his reasons

    AUSTRALIA vice-captain Michael Clarke says he will not play in this year's Indian Premier League.

    Clarke said on Thursday his decision to skip the lucrative Twenty20 tournament was made because Australia has such a busy international schedule coming up.

    "I won't be going to the IPL,'' Clarke said. "The most important thing for me is we've only got a couple of weeks off, we've got a very busy schedule.

    "With me, with my body and time with my family, I want time off this year.''
    Clarke pulls out of IPL auction | Cricket News | Indian Premier League 2009 | Cricinfo.com
    Read where the source of the information comes from in the stories posted by jono, it is someone unamed in India.


    I wont post anymore on it as I can see jono is in your signature which means you have only one thing on your mind.

Page 6 of 21 FirstFirst ... 4567816 ... LastLast


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Rankings Thread
    By SirBloody Idiot in forum Cricket Web Tennis
    Replies: 50
    Last Post: 13-09-2011, 05:14 AM
  2. Thread Hijacks
    By sledger in forum Site Discussion
    Replies: 90
    Last Post: 10-02-2010, 04:32 PM
  3. Finally ! A Last Word Thread
    By SJS in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 01-01-2010, 07:42 PM
  4. Michael Hussey – Is his time up?
    By Jakester1288 in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 222
    Last Post: 27-08-2009, 03:28 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •