Sachin Tendulkar and T20 International Cricket

[G.I.Joe]

IMO you shouldn't be allowed to play the IPL if you're going to make yourself unavailable for national T20 selection.

[Jono]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

IMO you shouldn't be allowed to play the IPL if you're going to make yourself unavailable for national T20 selection.

Interesting.

1. That prevents players (such as Tiwary for e.g.) learning from the great Tendulkar
2. Why only apply that for IPL? At the end of the day for all its glitz and glamour, its still a domestic tournament. How come a player can not play test cricket but be allowed to play FC cricket in many countries?
3. Its Tendulkar FFS. Appreciate watching him whenever you can, even if it is in the IPL.

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Jono

Interesting.

1. That prevents players (such as Tiwary for e.g.) learning from the great Tendulkar
2. Why only apply that for IPL? At the end of the day for all its glitz and glamour, its still a domestic tournament. How come a player can not play test cricket but be allowed to play FC cricket in many countries?
3. Its Tendulkar FFS. Appreciate watching him whenever you can, even if it is in the IPL.

Players can learn from the great SRT if he plays in the Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy too. Unfortunately it doesn't pay as well as the IPL and SRT chooses to skip the tournament. Its all about the money, and that forms the basis for my opposition.

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

IMO you shouldn't be allowed to play the IPL if you're going to make yourself unavailable for national T20 selection.

Funniest thing I've heard. Stop players from participating in domestic cricket after they retire from International cricket!

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

Players can learn from the great SRT if he plays in the Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy too. Unfortunately it doesn't pay as well as the IPL and SRT chooses to skip the tournament. Its all about the money, and that forms the basis for my opposition.

Is it a wrong thing to play for money then?

He had retired from the international Format BEFORE IPL was even thought out. Nobody said he couldn't play in domestic T20s because of that.

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Is it a wrong thing to play for money then?

No, isn't. But lets not be precious about calling a spade a spade.

He had retired from the international Format BEFORE IPL was even thought out. Nobody said he couldn't play in domestic T20s because of that.

Nice, looking forward to seeing him play the Syed Mushtaq Trophy this year

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

No, isn't. But lets not be precious about calling a spade a spade.



Nice, looking forward to seeing him play the Syed Mushtaq Trophy this year

Don't be lame. I asked what is wrong with participating in domestic cricket after retiring from international cricket?

If you want to call a spade a spade, call everyone including kumble, Dravid, Gilchrist, Warne, Hayden, Ganguly, Bond etc.

Let BCCI not schedule any India matches around that time. Then he might participate in that like he did in 2007.

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Don't be lame. I asked what is wrong with participating in domestic cricket after retiring from international cricket?

If you want to call a spade a spade, call everyone including kumble, Dravid, Gilchrist, Warne, Hayden, Ganguly, Bond etc.

I'm not going to go through the bother of compiling a list here. Needless to say it applies to anyone playing the IPL and not wanting to be considered for national selection or the state T20 tournament. Its their rightful choice, just as it is mine for calling them out for their motives.

Let BCCI not schedule any India matches around that time. Then he might participate in that like he did in 2007.

There were no matches scheduled during the majority of Mumbai's matches last year.

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

I'm not going to go through the bother of compiling a list here. Needless to say it applies to anyone playing the IPL and not wanting to be considered for national selection or the state T20 tournament. Its their rightful choice, just as it is mine for calling them out for their motives.

What is this "calling out"? Every one knows money is the only factor Tendulkar agreed to play in IPL. I don't find anything wrong in that considering he gave up International T20s well before that and stuck to his line.

Tendulkar indeed played state T20 when India was not playing any cricket, check out 2007.

There were no matches scheduled during the majority of Mumbai's matches last year.

Mumbai played it's matches on consecutive days from Oct 20 to Oct 24 this year. India - Australia ODI series started on Oct 25.

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

What is this "calling out"? Every one knows money is the only factor Tendulkar agreed to play in IPL. I don't find anything wrong in that considering he gave up International T20s well before that and stuck to his line.

Tendulkar indeed played state T20 when India was not playing any cricket, check out 2007.

And he didn't in 2009 when India weren't playing any cricket. I'd have a lot more respect for his stance if he played the domestic T20 comp that didn't pay as well too.

Mumbai played it's matches on consecutive days from Oct 20 to Oct 24 this year. India - Australia ODI series started on Oct 25.

So no overlap, and yet he didn't play. Its simple.

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

And he didn't in 2009 when India weren't playing any cricket. I'd have a lot more respect for his stance if he played the domestic T20 comp that didn't pay as well too.

I'd agree with you, but it happens no such thing happened in 2008-09

Family unhappy with treatment meted out to Mushtaq Ali Trophy

So no overlap, and yet he didn't play. Its simple.

Yeah he should've played a domestic t20 competition one day before start of a major ODI series? Please don't act foolish. You are much better than that. Tell me where do you find a precedent in that case?

Overall 2/10 for the fishing attempt. But FAIL.

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

I'd agree with you, but it happens no such thing happened in 2008-09

Family unhappy with treatment meted out to Mushtaq Ali Trophy

Who said anything about 2008? Are you even aware there was a tournament played in 2009?

8- Yeah he should've played a domestic t20 competition one day before start of a major ODI series? Please don't act foolish. You are much better than that. Tell me where do you find a precedent in that case?

Unless all of Mumbai's matches were played a day before the ODI series, your argument is moot. There are players who have just played a domestic T20 final 5 days before a T20 World Cup. A meaningless ODI series bears no comparison.

Overall 2/10 for the fishing attempt. But FAIL.

Thats going to give me sleepless nights

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

Who said anything about 2008? Are you even aware there was a tournament played in 2009?

Duh, there have been only 2 Mushtaq Ali tourneys held

2007-08 - Sachin participated
2009-10 - Clashed with Ind-Aus series

Unless all of Mumbai's matches were played a day before the ODI series, your argument is moot. There are players who have just played a domestic T20 final 5 days before a T20 World Cup. A meaningless ODI series bears no comparison.

A league match in a 2nd level T20 competition is more important than an ODI series with Australia

Unless all the matches Tendulkar missed were more than 5 days prior to the Aus series, your argument is moot as well.

Thats going to give me sleepless nights

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Duh, there have been only 2 Mushtaq Ali tourneys held

2007-08 - Sachin participated
2009-10 - Clashed with Ind-Aus series

So why mention a non existent 2008 one?

A league match in a 2nd level T20 competition is more important than an ODI series with Australia

Unless all the matches Tendulkar missed were more than 5 days prior to the Aus series, your argument is moot as well.

Yeah, because players needed to play either all five or none at all. Oh wait, they didn't.

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

So why mention a non existent 2008 one?

So your argument below is stupid as well

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

And he didn't in 2009 when India weren't playing any cricket.

Yeah, because players needed to play either all five or none at all. Oh wait, they didn't.

Yeah he should be playing a meaningless T20 league match 4 days before an ODI series between World No.1 and World No.2, when would he then join the squad? Further where is proof that BCCI would have released him to play even if he wanted to?

Also I asked you where is the precedent??