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    *Official* New Zealand Squad discussion thread

    Player's Pool:
    Brent Arnel, Shane Bond, Neil Broom, Ian Butler, Brendon Diamanti, James Franklin, Martin Guptill, Gareth Hopkins, Jamie How, Peter Ingram, Michael Mason, Brendon McCullum, Nathan McCullum, Peter McGlashan, Andy McKay, Kyle Mills, Rob Nicol, Kieran Noema-Barnett, Jacob Oram, Jeetan Patel, Aaron Redmond, Jesse Ryder, Bradley Scott, Mathew Sinclair, Tim Southee, Shanan Stewart, Scott Styris, Ross Taylor, Daryl Tuffey, Daniel Vettori
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    Final squad (assuming fitness):

    Jesse Ryder
    Brendon McCullum
    Martin Guptill
    Aaron Redmond
    Ross Taylor
    Scott Styris
    Rob Nicol
    Jacob Oram
    Gareth Hopkins (wk)
    Daniel Vettori (capt)
    Nathan McCullum
    Kyle Mills
    Tim Southee
    Shane Bond
    Ian Butler

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    Excellent squad IMO.
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    I can't quite understand why Rob Nicol's in the squad tbh. Ryder, McCullum, Guptill and Redmond are the squads four options up top, why the need for the 5th?

    Would of gone for Stewart personally, far better player of spin and we'll see a **** load of it in the West Indies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    I can't quite understand why Rob Nicol's in the squad tbh. Ryder, McCullum, Guptill and Redmond are the squads four options up top, why the need for the 5th?

    Would of gone for Stewart personally, far better player of spin and we'll see a **** load of it in the West Indies.
    It's part of the selectors master plan of stacking the side with batsmen who can bowl in order to make space for Gareth Hopkins

    I'm keen for Robbie Nicol to get a go, I just hope they haven't disposed of Stewart after two games.

    I forgot to mention, there's an 'injury cover' squad in case the above aren't passed fit:
    Peter Ingram
    Shanan Stewart
    James Franklin
    Peter McGlashan
    Jeetan Patel
    Brent Arnel
    Andy McKay

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    My predicted 11

    Jesse Ryder
    Brendon McCullum
    Martin Guptill
    Ross Taylor
    Scott Styris
    Jacob Oram
    Gareth Hopkins (wk)
    Daniel Vettori (capt)
    Nathan McCullum
    Tim Southee
    Shane Bond

    Choosing the bowlers was quite difficult. You could easily put in Mills or Butler ahead of Southee. But went with him because he has been playing more recently. They could also choose to leave NMcCullum off the starting XI

    Also what number will they bat Oram - Hopkins batted ahead of him in Wellington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRK-NANNES View Post

    I forgot to mention, there's an 'injury cover' squad in case the above aren't passed fit:
    Peter Ingram
    Shanan Stewart
    James Franklin
    Peter McGlashan
    Jeetan Patel
    Brent Arnel
    Andy McKay
    Why did Patel make this list. I am starting to develop a dislike for his continued selection for squads. I used to like him as well. Dimitri Mascarenas (sp?) showed in a T20 game why Patel is not suitable for T20.

    Ryder off after one over, Patel back.
    15.1
    Patel to Mascarenhas, 1 run, squirted into the on side
    15.2
    Patel to Collingwood, 1 run, thumped to long-on
    15.3
    Patel to Mascarenhas, SIX, driven high over long-on, he middled that and some, and it carries into the second tier of the stand
    15.4
    Patel to Mascarenhas, SIX, and more of the same, and that went even further if anything
    15.5
    Patel to Mascarenhas, SIX, this is The Oval revisited ... another swing high over long-on, many rows back
    McCullum trots down to have a word with his bowler. Don't toss it up might be the advice ...
    15.6
    Patel to Mascarenhas, SIX, Patel switches to round the wicket but it makes not a scrap of difference ... another big swing of the arms and a fourth six disappears over long-on
    That was the same shot four times in succession and Patel was almost feeding that .

    Oh well putting my positive person hat on. Good luck to Patel if he gets called up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Why did Patel make this list. I am starting to develop a dislike for his continued selection for squads. I used to like him as well. Dimitri Mascarenas (sp?) showed in a T20 game why Patel is not suitable for T20.
    Probably because after Vettori and McCullum, he's the next choice spinner? Possibly to do with 16 wickets at 16.81 in T20 Internationals? Backed up by 47 @ 21 domestically? Does buy his wickets, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    I can't quite understand why Rob Nicol's in the squad tbh. Ryder, McCullum, Guptill and Redmond are the squads four options up top, why the need for the 5th?
    Rob Nicol has been pretty good domestically for a while. In my mind the 'next Black Caps' batsmen-wise for the past few years were Neil Broom, Rob Nicol and Greg Todd (in that order - Flynn and Stewart were called up in the mean time).

    He has a good record for T20s domestically - averaging 35 (just 23 this season, though). When you look at the squad, a lot of the batsmen seem to be openers: Ryder, McCullum, Redmond, Guptill. Taylor and Styris are the only genuine middle order batsmen (Ryder is too, actually, but he'll probably open...Hopkins is a lower order finisher + keeper). Having Nicol makes sense to me, since Broom is injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    My predicted 11

    Jesse Ryder
    Brendon McCullum
    Martin Guptill
    Ross Taylor
    Scott Styris
    Jacob Oram
    Gareth Hopkins (wk)
    Daniel Vettori (capt)
    Nathan McCullum
    Tim Southee
    Shane Bond

    Choosing the bowlers was quite difficult. You could easily put in Mills or Butler ahead of Southee. But went with him because he has been playing more recently. They could also choose to leave NMcCullum off the starting XI

    Also what number will they bat Oram - Hopkins batted ahead of him in Wellington.
    Tim Southee was the best performing New Zealand quick in the HRV cup, he then continued that form into the Australian series, he's the best death bowler we have AFAIC, he has to be in the team. Ian Butler's never been that consistant since coming back.

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    I really hope NZ will go through to the next round.
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    Reckon New Zealand will be quietly confident of easily taking this pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    I'm expecting a weakened NZ side to make it through the first group stage and New Zealand A to get knocked out in the second group stage.
    Scaly reverse jinxing us, NZ to take it out and not have a single injury.

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