Group D - West Indies, England, Ireland

[GIMH]

Originally Posted by four_or_six

Good to see we have a female brain manning the laptop.

Stuart Broad's sister

[Marcuss]

Originally Posted by four_or_six

Good to see we have a female brain manning the laptop.

Still Broad's sister?

Edit : Me sloooooow.

[Zinzan]

Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

English parents, son of a former Yorkshire opener and has played all of his first-class cricket for English sides...nothing to see here

There will be a breaking point Geraint, once more & more South African's realise the can have a better live & earn more money & it gets to a point that there are more S African-born than English-born players in the team, I think English fans will start wincing a little.

[four_or_six]

Originally Posted by superkingdave

Think its Stuart Broads sister tbph

Yeah, I know. Lol, can imagine how much my brother would love it if I was sat in the dressing room with him all the time.

[GIMH]

****ing rain

there's stuff i wanna watch on my sky+ before I go to bed and this doesn't help

[superkingdave]

Originally Posted by superkingdave

Don't know anyone who cares apart from my Dad, and he's a cynical old bastard who would be disappointed if he didn't have anything to complain about.


Anyway, we'll be off again now.

Just to come back on this, someone like Paul Horton, would love him to play for England, lived in Australia till he was in his early teens, but has been in the Lancashire system since he was U15 (English parents), don't think I would feel any better if some Yorkie was in the side ahead of him.

[GIMH]

Originally Posted by zinzan12

There will be a breaking point Geraint, once more & more South African's realise the can have a better live & earn more money & it gets to a point that there are more S African-born than English-born players in the team, I think English fans will start wincing a little.

The point is he's not a 'South African' really, given that his folks are English, of course that's going off my definition of nationality. The only person in our side with no parental link to England as far as I can tell is Morgan...

[wpdavid]

Originally Posted by zinzan12

There will be a breaking point Geraint, once more & more South African's realise the can have a better live & earn more money & it gets to a point that there are more S African-born than English-born players in the team, I think English fans will start wincing a little.

Agreed - but I think Geraint's right to point out that someone like Lumb, especially with two English parents, isn't the same as Trott or Kieswetter who has represented SA at some junior level.

[social]

Shame for both teams

120 was all Ireland could've hoped for and "maybe" Eng didnt deserve to be in sudden death after knocking up 191 yesterday

[Kyle]

Regardless of how you view nationality, it's tough to believe that only 2/6 of the best batsmen in the country weren't actually born here is a coincidence.

They may not have learnt their cricket overseas (though some have), but I believe they learnt their attitude towards competition and the game. That's more what I think is wrong with England producing their own batsmen.

[BoyBrumby]

Lumb sounds a yarp, tbf.

Ironically, given his name and being an ex SAU19 player, Kieswetter probably has the least saffie inflection to his accent of our converts.

I personally think we're obliged to pick our best players, regardless of birthplace or upbringing. System needs overhauling from the bottom up until we produce more quality natives.

[four_or_six]

Do we have a lot more Saffas coming through at the moment? I kind of assume that these things come and go and so numbers in the side will change soon enough.

[King Pietersen]

Well, the better young batsmen coming through are probably Taylor, Vince, Denly, Northeast and in OD cricket arguably Hales (possibly forgetting someone obvious; Hamilton-Brown appears to have something about him too). Don't think any of those lads are South African. Think it's just a phase that will pass tbh.

[BoyBrumby]

Malan's been around A squads and Moore got that ton v Oz in the Loins game last year.

[Uppercut]

Vaughan's saying shorter matches favour Ireland. Don't know if that's entirely true in the case of this particular team. Their players aren't generally capable of humming along at 10 an over for the last five the way we're accustomed to seeing test sides go.