Germany quite strong favourites for mine. They just beat Argentina 4-0 ffs.
Looking at the two teams on paper, I'd expect Spain to triumph most of the time, as they have better players.
However, football isn't played on paper, and given the respective showings of the two nations thus far at the World Cup, Germany should win.
If Spain turn up and play like they're capable, it's a different story, which is why I wouldn't make Germany strong favourites.
It is an obvious point but first goal is so key.
If Spain get it then that poses a very different question for Germany. Most of their goals against England and Argentina were down to great counter atacking against dreadfull defences, they will not be able to do that against a Spannish side that is one goal up and keeps the ball so well.
Hope Spain play Cesc though, made a difference when he came on yesterday.
Muller isn't playing is he?
it's easy to overrate this German side based on a couple of really successful matches; they're full of young, talented footballers, but the fact remains that they don't have a clue who to put at LB and whoever they choose (Boateng, Badstuber) he'll be shown up at the highest level, Klose needs 252584124174 chances to score a goal, Podolski and Khedira are mercurial at best and Müller is 20. There are valid arguments to be made against the Spanish side winning, too, of course - team not looking like it's gelled, no end product out of their neat passing play - but it's a 50-50 clash.
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Originally Posted by Adolf Grünbaum
Positives for Spain I can see:
1) No Muller for semi; big miss
2) Spain aren't playing at anything like their potential but have done enough to make it so far
3) Conversely, Germany are playing about as well as they can. Only one way to go from there, etc
4) Only time Jerry went behind so far he struggled to formulate a meaningful response.
5) Spain (at least in theory) have the pace & movement to exploit the lack of the same in the German centre-halves
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Tbf though, the only game in the tournament they've played with a lone striker resulted in a loss.
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Fair point, just don't think they're utilising Torres properly though, and that combined with him being somewhat short of proper match fitness isn't helping the teams fluidity.
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