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    Well, that wasn't a surprise.

    Messi is still some way off Maradona, Pele and even Zidane in the greatness stakes, maybe that was Maradona's plan all along. Should have taken a leaf or two out of Tevez's book today.

    And yeah, even England look much better in retrospect.
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    I fancy my man Xavi to give this German midfield a thing or two to think about. If they get there, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    Well, that wasn't a surprise.

    Messi is still some way off Maradona, Pele and even Zidane in the greatness stakes, maybe that was Maradona's plan all along. Should have taken a leaf or two out of Tevez's book today.

    And yeah, even England look much better in retrospect.
    I know you're not making a big deal of it, but I really hope that sort of view doesn't gain enough currency to mask our deficincies in this tournament

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    Well, that wasn't a surprise.

    Messi is still some way off Maradona, Pele and even Zidane in the greatness stakes, maybe that was Maradona's plan all along. Should have taken a leaf or two out of Tevez's book today.

    And yeah, even England look much better in retrospect.
    Not defending his performance today which was below par but the system employed by Maradonna did not allow his to express himself.He was dropping many times to get the ball as the link between mid field and defense was just non existent.Still young though hope he maintains his touch and make a better fist of it next time around.


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    I don't want Klose to break Ronaldo's WC goalscoring record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    I don't want Klose to break Ronaldo's WC goalscoring record.
    TBF, perhaps these two should not count, since the opposition was so poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    I don't want Klose to break Ronaldo's WC goalscoring record.
    No, him being level with Gerd Muller is a big enough insult. It's like Clayton Lambert having the same average as Bradman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaggas View Post
    TBF, perhaps these two should not count, since the opposition was so poor.
    Not Test standard eh?

    A serious question, when comparing players, do football fans count the goals against North Korea and other countries with bad teams?
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    The players seemed really unselfish...I thought for sure a couple players would have taken their shots but instead they passed to teammates in slightly better positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Not Test standard eh?

    A serious question, when comparing players, do football fans count the goals against North Korea and other countries with bad teams?
    Regularly used as an argument against England's own Peter Crouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    A serious question, when comparing players, do football fans count the goals against North Korea and other countries with bad teams?
    Yes & no, tbh. They're counted the same, but judgement is generally reserved.

    Take Peter Crouch; he has a very decent scoring record for England (21 in 40), but they've mostly come against average teams. He's seen as an FTB as a striker.

    EDIT: Beaten to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Not Test standard eh?

    A serious question, when comparing players, do football fans count the goals against North Korea and other countries with bad teams?
    There's not much cross-country comparison, because you get some players in teams who play a lot of sub-standard internationals, and play many, many games. I don't think Ali Daei is considered a great by many. the Guys from the big nations in that list are though.

    So it's just who is most scorer for your nation really that matters. Bobby Charlton is ours, and it's still looking strong ATM, despite everything.

    Yet, in general we think a goals a goal. not many stat-mongerers in football thankfully

    Edit: Even though, clearly Crouch an exception.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    Well, that wasn't a surprise.

    Messi is still some way off Maradona, Pele and even Zidane in the greatness stakes, maybe that was Maradona's plan all along. Should have taken a leaf or two out of Tevez's book today.

    And yeah, even England look much better in retrospect.
    This is such a crap point, it is fairly obvioust that for all Maradona's failings he is desperate for Messi and his team to do well.

    Anyway Argentina's defence was awful and the Germans were great, still fancy Spain (If they get past Paraguay of course) to get past them though, will be a great match though

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