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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Ah, that's all I was asking. I find it a little odd that such situation had not come up before in the huge history...

    Hopefully this is cause for a change in rules.
    It has, I remember a League Cup Final wher A scouser handballed in the final minute against the Irons, I think. Yet the pen taker was Ray Stewart, so it was a tad pointless.

    Won't change the rules, football fans want goals scored, and this is something I agree with TBH. Unjust that it may seem.
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    That was a real sickner. In the unlikely event of Uruguay getting any further I hope FIFA ban that **** from the final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    It has, I remember a League Cup Final wher A scouser handballed in the final minute against the Irons, I think. Yet the pen taker was Ray Stewart, so it was a tad pointless.

    Won't change the rules, football fans want goals scored, and this is something I agree with TBH. Unjust that it may seem.
    Right now, if you know the ball is going in and the only way you can stop it is with your hands, there is no downside to using them, correct?

    Ah.. However, if the fans have experienced it, and are OK with it...

    I find that reasoning a bit odd but if the fans like it this way - it's fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    That's not an explanation. That's a restatement of the rules - which we all agree were followed in this case.
    But they're not going to change the rules if they deem the current ones adequate will they?


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Ah, that's all I was asking. I find it a little odd that such situation had not come up before in the huge history...

    Hopefully this is cause for a change in rules.
    Absolutely won't be and nor should it. It was a professional foul to prevent a goal. Red card and penalty sufficient punishment.

    Situation has come up dozens of times; once earlier in this world cup in fact (Harry Kewell v Ghana too, ironically enough).

    If the ref is allowed to start assuming things it sets a very dangerous precedent, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Absolutely won't be and nor should it. It was a professional foul to prevent a goal. Red card and penalty sufficient punishment.

    Situation has come up dozens of times; once earlier in this world cup in fact (Harry Kewell v Ghana too, ironically enough).

    If the ref is allowed to start assuming things it sets a very dangerous precedent, IMHO.
    Maybe with the introduction of goal line technology, it might be worth taking a look at? But it does look like people are OK with it, which is something I didn't expect...so fair enough then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    But they're not going to change the rules if they deem the current ones adequate will they?
    Hence I was asking for reasoning, not a restatement of the rules......

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Hence I was asking for reasoning, not a restatement of the rules......
    But the reason the rules are the way they are is because it's been deemed that's the best they can be.
    People, largely are happy with the punishments and what not the way they are.
    Why should they be changed?

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    I'm in favour of video technology myself, and a lot of changes (I actually don't see the point of offside), but yeah we like a goal scored so with the powers that be, on this one. Stinks and all, but that's football, it's a very weird sport as you've probably realised SS

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    I'm in favour of video technology myself, and a lot of changes (I actually don't see the point of offside), but yeah we like a goal scored so with the powers that be, on this one. Stinks and all, but that's football, it's a very weird sport as you've probably realised SS
    So in this situation, per the rules, there is really no downside to using your hands right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    So in this situation, per the rules, there is really no downside to using your hands right?
    Nope. Well, it's better to use your hands than let in a goal, if that's what you mean. Suarez, WAG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    So in this situation, per the rules, there is really no downside to using your hands right?
    You miss the next game.
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    Your whole team misses the next game if you don't use your hands though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    So in this situation, per the rules, there is really no downside to using your hands right?

    Well he'll miss matches, but for the team, no not really. Yet I think you'd rather clear it cleanly and not have the pen, so it's not a free-for-all. Happens very rarely, that example I gave was early eighties, but back then I'm not even sure you were sent off. Must have happened lots of other times, but I can't think of many

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    Pretty sure I can remember it happening in the Premiership at some point.
    Probably made it up tbh.
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