Is it ok to boo your own team?

[Uppercut]

Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

The title of the thread says "Is it ok to boo your own team?"

Tranmere is my team

Therefore, yes, yes it is


Anyway, you're stating opinion as fact. On what basis can you say that it's going to make them ****ter? Some players thrive on provijg people wrong, others let their head drop. You can't make hard fast rules.

It's another debate entirely. Do you think England will play better in the next match than they would have had they not been booed?

[GIMH]

I don't know; I'm not a psychologist. I don't think you can definitively state it either way and nor do I think you can state such a thing collectively.

The supposed eleven best players in the country shouldn't be too worried about a bit of booing nonetheless.

[Pothas]

Never booed Brentford but do not blame people for doing it in some circumstances, yesterday was certainly one of them.

[social]

The only people I've booed in my life have been refs when they walk ONTO the ground and that was habit and a bit of fun

Maybe I'm nave but I happen to believe that everyone does their best when on the field

[Neil Pickup]

I've never booed Exeter and can't see myself ever doing so: nothing irritates me more than morons getting on the team's back because of a couple of misplaced passes in the context of what's been achieved in the last few years.

England, last night, however... it's different. People have flown halfway round the world to support the side and they turn in such abject, fearful ****. I am struggling to remember a worse England performance in a game that mattered - and it was **** because the players barely ever tried to make things happen - it was safety first, just kick-and-rush wait for something to happen.

I don't think I'd have joined the boos last night - same way I can't see myself doing so if we get stuffed at Melbourne or Sydney this winter - but I didn't feel myself angered in the same way as I do when it happens at Exeter. We can't possibly play worse, anyway.

[pasag]

Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

I don't know; I'm not a psychologist. I don't think you can definitively state it either way and nor do I think you can state such a thing collectively.

The supposed eleven best players in the country shouldn't be too worried about a bit of booing nonetheless.

Imagine it depends on what motivates people to play, if they're just doing it for themselves then they probably don't care, if they're playing for the country and national pride and all that jazz I imagine they'd be pretty upset.

[Uppercut]

They'll obviously be affected in some way by 30,000 people booing them off the pitch when they're representing their country. I don't get how being one of the best 11 players in your country has any impact on that at all.

[silentstriker]

Yea, hopefully it'll get them to do better next time instead of just sliding by because they didn't get called on heir crap.

[Ikki]

No I don't think it's ok. Especially so with regards to the current England problem. A reason why the team has played poorly and may continue to do so is because of the ridiculous pressure the fans put on the players and the way they turn on them at the drop of a hat.

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by Ikki

No I don't think it's ok. Especially so with regards to the current England problem. A reason why the team has played poorly and may continue to do so is because of the ridiculous pressure the fans put on the players and the way they turn on them at the drop of a hat.

Two problems with that: firstly I don't think an expectation that England would beat a demonstrably inferior side like Algeria is ridiculous pressure & secondly it wasn't at the drop of a hat. It was at the arse end of the game when the players had shown neither the ability nor much of an inclination to score.

[GIMH]

Originally Posted by Uppercut

They'll obviously be affected in some way by 30,000 people booing them off the pitch when they're representing their country. I don't get how being one of the best 11 players in your country has any impact on that at all.

Yeah they will be affected in some way - that doesn't automatically mean it would be a negative. I would feel that I let those people down, and it would motivate me to do better.

As for being one of the best players, well being able to handle the mental side of things is obviously part of that, given the microscope all of their football is played under. Rooney, for example, has dealt with worse things than being booed by his own fans when playing for Man U. Those who can't handle it wouldn't have made it in the Prem.

[Sir Alex]

No, it is not.

[Ikki]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Two problems with that: firstly I don't think an expectation that England would beat a demonstrably inferior side like Algeria is ridiculous pressure & secondly it wasn't at the drop of a hat. It was at the arse end of the game when the players had shown neither the ability nor much of an inclination to score.

You can't win every game all the time. England qualified comfortably and have shown their quality. Instead of backing them to win the last match and possibly still end up topping the group their fans have been harassing them since game 1 - one which was tied because of a howler from the keeper. Fans who have the inclination of support should get some perspective. If their team is ****, then stop expecting so much. If it's not, then back them to make it right.

Personally, I rarely buy it when fans complain "X didn't try". Bull****. This is the WC...they're giving their all the best way they know how. Maybe they're no good, maybe they should try other things, but to say that they're not "trying" as if they dont care is insulting to the players.

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by Ikki

You can't win every game all the time. England qualified comfortably and have shown their quality. Instead of backing them to win the last match and possibly still end up topping the group their fans have been harassing them since game 1 - one which was tied because of a howler from the keeper. Fans who have the inclination of support should get some perspective. If their team is ****, then stop expecting so much. If it's not, then back them to make it right.

Personally, I rarely buy it when fans complain "X didn't try". Bull****. This is the WC...they're giving their all the best way they know how. Maybe they're no good, maybe they should try other things, but to say that they're not "trying" as if they dont care is insulting to the players.

I don't remember any booing during the US game, but it could be I missed it because of the horns.

& it isn't that the team is crap. Admittedly I am English, but even if I were a neutral observer I'd expect England to beat Algeria. Many of my fellow countrymen doubtless shared this fairly reasonable expectation and those who'd shelled out a few thousand quid were probably a bit miffed to see the team (for whatever reason) perform so badly.

[Uppercut]

Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Yeah they will be affected in some way - that doesn't automatically mean it would be a negative. I would feel that I let those people down, and it would motivate me to do better.

As for being one of the best players, well being able to handle the mental side of things is obviously part of that, given the microscope all of their football is played under. Rooney, for example, has dealt with worse things than being booed by his own fans when playing for Man U. Those who can't handle it wouldn't have made it in the Prem.

It's blatantly obvious to anyone watching England at the moment that they're having confidence issues, so I don't think the "good footballers can handle it" theory is holding up.