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    Quote Originally Posted by Kweek View Post
    Verdediging Vurnon Anita (Ajax), Khalid Boulahrouz (VfB Stuttgart, Dui), Edson Braafheid (Celtic, Sch), Giovanni van Bronckhorst (Feyenoord), John Heitinga (Everton, Eng), Joris Mathijsen (Hamburger SV, Dui), André Ooijer (PSV), Ron Vlaar (Feyenoord), Gregory van der Wiel (Ajax)..
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    disagree with Stools about not having a decent goalkeeper, Stekelenburg is imho in the top 5 goalkeepers in the world at the moment, hugely underrated just because he has so far stayed at Ajax.

    imho our whole defense is shambles apart from van Bronckhorst(who is old now anyway) Heitinga and van der Wiel.
    Ooijer, Vlaar and Braafheid are very average to crap.
    Boulahrouz used to be a killer marker but also old and hardly seems to play.
    Matthijsen seems to be popular with the Dutch selectors but he too looks very average.

    Must say that Nigel de Jong has showed great promise and is really becomming a killer in the DMC/MC position.
    imho a midfield of Sneijder - van Bommel - De Jong is very strong and must not be underrated.
    If Sneijder, van Persie and Robben stay fit the whole tournament we have an outside chance.
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    How good is van der Wiel? Seen a lot of talk linking him to Arsenal lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    How good is van der Wiel? Seen a lot of talk linking him to Arsenal lately.
    van der Wiel's main ability is that he's an excellent runner with the ball and has a good cross and shot, he's defensive qualities are pretty good although he still has a lot to learn since he is still very young.

    Brama, Mendes Da Silva and Bakkal have been dropped.
    Which means either Vurnon Anita or Braafheid to get cut for the backup LB position, van Bronckhorst will be our main man for the LB position.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kweek View Post
    van der Wiel's main ability is that he's an excellent runner with the ball and has a good cross and shot, he's defensive qualities are pretty good although he still has a lot to learn since he is still very young.

    Brama, Mendes Da Silva and Bakkal have been dropped.
    Which means either Vurnon Anita or Braafheid to get cut for the backup LB position, van Bronckhorst will be our main man for the LB position.
    Really bugs me that such a great midfielder has been wasted at left back by Holland and Barcelona.

    Gutted that Gio's retiring, absolute legend (Feyenoord years aside).

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    pretty much a legend for Feyenoord as well, has been pretty superb in a very average team and has been key to the fact Feyenoord is not playing in the lower region of the Eredivisie plus he has been influential with a few excellent prospects that Feyenoord has such as De Vrije (17 year old rightback) and for players such as Vlaar who is regarded as a pretty good DC.

    a lot of love for Feyenoord from me, weird for an Ajax supporter but it's a genetic thing apperently (my great granddad was the Chairman at Feyenoord from 1920/1925, the first chairman to make Feyenoord a more professional side + he got them to the highest division for the first time (they never relegated again)
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    The world would be a much better place if everything Feyenoord suddenly disappeared in a puff of smoke. Can't stand the ****s.

    Matthijsen is actually highly rated in Germany as well, where people do know what a good defender looks like. So maybe he's become a lot better than 2 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steulen View Post
    Matthijsen is actually highly rated in Germany as well, where people do know what a good defender looks like.
    Might be more on name tbh (every Dutch footballer in Germany gets lauded ), kicker ranks him as having a pretty middling year (3.72 out of 6 average). And Germany's defence is even worse than Netherlands: Lahm doesn't know where he wants to play, nobody has a clue who can play next to Mertesacker and the other side back is a disaster...

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    and even in Germany they thought Braafheid was way to poor.

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    But he'll be ditched...surely...?

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    Dutch and Danish fans target al-Qaida
    AGHDAD — An alleged al-Qaida militant detained in Iraq said Tuesday he was plotting to attack Danish and Dutch teams at the World Cup in South Africa next month to avenge insults against the Prophet Muhammad.

    Iraqi security forces holding a Saudi citizen identified as Abdullah Azam Saleh al-Qahtani arranged for The Associated Press to interview him at an unidentified government building in Baghdad. He said he initially came to Iraq in 2004 to fight Americans and was recruited by al-Qaida.

    An Iraqi security official with knowledge of the investigation said al-Qahtani was arrested after a joint U.S.-Iraqi operation in April that killed the two top al-Qaida in Iraq figures — Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi. The official asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to discuss details of the case.

    Documents found in the house where they were killed, including a note written by al-Qahtani detailing the World Cup plot, led to his arrest on May 3. Iraqi authorities announced the arrest on Monday.

    Abdullah Azam Saleh al-Qahtani

    “We discussed the possibility of taking revenge for the insults of the prophet by attacking Denmark and Holland,” al-Qahtani told The AP. “The goal was to attack the Danish and the Dutch teams and their fans,” he added.

    “If we were not able to reach the teams, then we’d target the fans,” he said, adding that they hoped to use guns and car bombs.

    The alleged militant, who is about 30 years old with a mustache, was wearing an orange prisoner jumpsuit and had no outward signs of injury or abuse. He did not appear nervous or fearful.

    It was unclear whether the militants had the ability to carry out what would have been quite a sophisticated operation — a complicated attack far from their home base.

    A U.S. military spokesman referred all questions about al-Qahtani to the government of Iraq.

    He said the idea came up in late 2009 during talks with friends over some publications in Western media they deemed offensive to Muslims.

    In 2006, 12 cartoons of the prophet in a Danish newspaper sparked furious protests in Muslim countries.

    In the Netherlands, an anti-Islam party has become the country’s fastest growing political movement. Its leader, Geert Wilders, calls the Quran a “fascist book” and wants it banned in the Netherlands. His 2008 short film “Fitna,” offended many Muslims by juxtaposing Quranic verses with images of terrorism by Islamic radicals.

    He advocated closing borders to immigrants, and taxing clothing commonly worn by Muslims, such as headscarves, because they “pollute” the Dutch landscape.

    Wilders’ popularity is partly a reaction to a spate of Islamic radical violence that sent shudders through the nation a few years ago. In 2004, a young Muslim from the Slotervaart neighborhood murdered Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh, who had produced a short film portraying alleged oppression of Muslim women.

    Al-Qahtani said the World Cup was considered a high-profile international event and South Africa was thought to be easier to travel to than either of the two European countries they wanted to target.

    The Iraqi security official said no steps had yet been taken to put the plan into motion, such as obtaining bomb-making materials.

    Al-Qahtani said the plot still needed approval from the al-Qaida chain of command, specifically the group’s No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri.

    Vish Naidoo, a spokesman for South African police, said Tuesday that South African officials were still awaiting word from their Iraqi counterparts about the arrest. He said the only information South African officials had was from media reports.

    FIFA said in a statement Tuesday it would not comment on any specific potential threats to the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

    U.S. and Iraqi officials have said that the deaths of al-Masri and al-Baghdadi were considered a heavy blow to the terror group and its abilities to carry out attacks. Iraqi authorities have also said that materials obtained in their investigation and search of the safehouse where they were found has led them to other members of the organization and provided them with valuable intelligence about the group.
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    Got tickets for the Cameroon vs Netherlands game.
    Gonna march with the 6000 or so Dutch fans from the FIFA fan park to the stadium.
    Brb following the Oranje bus.
    Gonna be f'n awesome.
    Oh and R16 Quarter final and Semi final tickets.

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    Arjen Robben probably out of the WC, he to has been hit by the WC10 virus which has been sneaking around, although Robben is made from paper.
    van Persie 5 goals in 3 warm up games...not bad although the opposition was pretty average.
    our defense looks very weak, the only one who seems to do a good job is van der Wiel.
    Mathijsen, Heitinga and van Bronckhorst look lost at times.

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    Looking forward to the Dutch game here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    Looking forward to the Dutch game here.
    Me too, looking for a nice attacking display and probably a silly goal after shock defending. Best thing is that I'm sending my research group on a mandatory course in Dealing with the Dutch. Lunchtime footy and pints on the boss' orders. The gits should love me.

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