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    You would ban spinners in cricket if it were upto you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    I'd tell him why he was wrong . Which is fine. I'm just posting about a problem that I see with the sport in terms of my enjoyment, obviously if other people enjoy it the way it is, that's fine.
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    The faking injuries thing really is obnoxious, but for Australian viewers I'm sure it's because in our sporting culture, pretending that you're not in pain even when you've taken a pretty serious hit is an expected part of every sport. In soccer, being fouled is basically a chance to lie on the ground for a minute and rest while you pretend to be hurt, while admitting you feel any pain at all after taking a hit in an AFL game would get you a reputation for being soft.

    The reaction you see from a player going down to a fairly standard tackle in a world cup game would be something you'd expect if a player had a broken leg or something in an AFL game. It's just a totally different relationship to what it means to show pain on the field.
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    Ah, nice explanation that. So in Aussie Rules pain is generally seen as a sign of weakness? Is that a fair interpretation?


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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad View Post
    The faking injuries thing really is obnoxious, but for Australian viewers I'm sure it's because in our sporting culture, pretending that you're not in pain even when you've taken a pretty serious hit is an expected part of every sport. In soccer, being fouled is basically a chance to lie on the ground for a minute and rest while you pretend to be hurt, while admitting you feel any pain at all after taking a hit in an AFL game would get you a reputation for being soft.

    The reaction you see from a player going down to a fairly standard tackle in a world cup game would be something you'd expect if a player had a broken leg or something in an AFL game. It's just a totally different relationship to what it means to show pain on the field.
    Pretty much the same here, tbh. Simulation is still seen as a foreign disease. In fact we actually have quite a few English divers (Cashley, Owen & Rooney all known for going to grass rather easily) but can't honestly recall any of them faking an injury as such.

    The corollary of the dim view of footballing thesps is that in England the foul is generally viewed as a lesser sin than than the dive or the sneaky handball. In fact one's lumbering centre half booting the oppo's winger into the advertising hordings is a thing of beauty at times.
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    Yeah, it's bred into Australian footballers (of whatever code) that you don't show pain - never, ever let them know they've hurt you.

    There's a great saying that, despite my love of football, rings so true:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Ah, nice explanation that. So in Aussie Rules pain is generally seen as a sign of weakness? Is that a fair interpretation?
    Yeah. I mean, you'll see the stretcher on the field if someone is in a neck brace or has something broken.

    Mind you, people absolutely do go to ground easily to try and draw free kicks, and while it's frowned upon it's part of the game and a number of players are very good at it. But you would never, ever pretend to be hurt when you weren't. More or less what Brumby said about domestic football in England.

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    Can't believe Brumby left our skipper out of his divers list

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Can't believe Brumby left our skipper out of his divers list
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Can't believe Brumby left our skipper out of his divers list
    Sorry. Cashley, Owen & Rooney & Ian Thomas-Moore all known for going to grass rather easily.

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    Fair shout, actually

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    The exact same thing that Fuller describes is present in loads of other English sports. Rugby for example is pretty much the ultimate 'hard guy' (for want of a better word) game, where players will pretty much do anything to avoid showing pain. Same occurs in hockey (despite its rep as a girl's game) as well.
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    Hockey defo a girl's game tbh

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