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    Basically, Saffa need France and Mexico to draw tomorrow, then they need to beat France and hope Uruguay beat or draw with mexico. I think.

    Teams have gone through with 4 points before, but they've also finished bottom of the group with 4 points before. Haven't they Hakon?
    Any result tomorrow gives South Africa some way of getting through and some way of going out even if they win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Basically, Saffa need France and Mexico to draw tomorrow, then they need to beat France and hope Uruguay beat or draw with mexico. I think.

    Teams have gone through with 4 points before, but they've also finished bottom of the group with 4 points before. Haven't they Hakon?
    There was the group in Italia 90 or USA 94 involving Ireland where both the top team and the bottom team finished on 4 points.
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    Can someone perhaps explain the reason for the goalie's red card to me, keeping in mind that the first full football match I've watched in my life was the SA-Mexico game? Is the goalie not allowed to touch the players at all or something? And wasn't the Uruguay chap offside for that last pass?

    I'm not suggesting we should have won or anything, I'd just like to know if the tirade of ref-blasting is justified or not.


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    Haha wow, just looking at Khune's red card now. Definitely looks to me like he was expecting the Uruguay player to have a shot instead of taking another touch as he did. Could see it being a penalty because of how bad it looked, but not a red, surely.
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    Shouldn't have been a red purely for the way Suarez reacted once he'd been clipped, looked like he'd been shot ffs.

    Definitely was a penalty, definitely wasn't offside.

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    Two matches, three goals scored, none conceded....

    Uruguay are off to a good start. I'm sure their manager is pleased with that!

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    Definitely a red because Suarez had an open net if the keeper didn't foul him. Fair enough if you disagree with the rules, but given the letter of the law, the keeper has to walk.
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    Denying a clear goal scoring opportunity by foul play is a red card. Considring he is the last SA player and tripped suarez 3 yards in front of goal, it'll be a red card[At least according to rules], more often than not it depends on referee though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Definitely a red because Suarez had an open net if the keeper didn't foul him. Fair enough if you disagree with the rules, but given the letter of the law, the keeper has to walk.
    There was no way on Earth Suarez was getting to the ball, his last touch had all but kicked it out for a throw in ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matteh View Post
    There was the group in Italia 90 or USA 94 involving Ireland where both the top team and the bottom team finished on 4 points.
    Yeah, Italy, Norway, Mexico & Ireland. Back then, 3 teams would go through from 4 of the 6 groups so only Norway went out, for some reason they played for a draw in the final game against Ireland even though they went into the game 4th

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corli View Post
    Can someone perhaps explain the reason for the goalie's red card to me, keeping in mind that the first full football match I've watched in my life was the SA-Mexico game? Is the goalie not allowed to touch the players at all or something? And wasn't the Uruguay chap offside for that last pass?

    I'm not suggesting we should have won or anything, I'd just like to know if the tirade of ref-blasting is justified or not.
    It's a professional foul if a player prevents a goalscoring opportunity. Generally if the keeper takes someone down in the box then that's what has happened. Now some are debating it in this case but if a player hits the ball past the keeper and then the keeper takes him down it's always going to be a red.

    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post
    Haha wow, just looking at Khune's red card now. Definitely looks to me like he was expecting the Uruguay player to have a shot instead of taking another touch as he did. Could see it being a penalty because of how bad it looked, but not a red, surely.
    Bit worrying that someone who plays in goal doesn't know that that was a read, or maybe it's the old goalkeepers' union out in force

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    There was no way on Earth Suarez was getting to the ball, his last touch had all but kicked it out for a throw in ffs.
    Really? Now how I remembered it, but if that's the case then bad decision.

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    Carn Mexico. Given France's tactical ineptitude I would not rule out them getting at least a draw from this match.

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