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But i would still have him in the squad, since lets say Barry gets injured. Carrick is his back-up..
Haha, wow, bossing a Germany B team. Even if that claim wasn't at all tenuous it still wouldn't justify his inclusion in the squad.
Yea, but no many opposition mid-fielders in Europe can boss the Spanish mid-field trio anyway.
Carrick can definately be of use to ENG, i dont see a reason why you should leave him out especially if you are going pick Milner instead. His position too ATM is likely even safer with Hargreaves unlikely to go, even though i'm still holding out out he could recover in time & make the squad.
Last edited by aussie; 12-01-2010 at 02:47 PM.
You may not see any reason for why he should be left out, but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in seeing no reason for him being picked. You constantly refer to how he may be good cover for Barry, but fail to explain why. Also let's not forget that Barry is hardly an outstanding player himself, albeit a great deal better than Carrick. Hargreaves is obviously the best choice in my opinion, but his chances are getting slimmer and slimmer by the day, and I think almost everyone is resigned to the fact that he will not be on the plane to South Africa.
So lets say Barry gets injured, Stevie G may have to come & partners Lamps in the middle together, which we all know is failed formula. This is why Carrick is back-up to Barry.
If Carrick learns to tackle as well as Gareth Barry in one day? That's an absurd suggestion, if Robert Green suddenly becomes as good as Zidane overnight he should probably be picked to play in midfield as well. Besides, the bottom line is he isn't as good currently so it's not worth dwelling on, irrespective of will he will ever be, something I doubt.
As for Gerrard partnering Lampard in midfield, so be it, it's not ideal, but shunting a substandard player into the team for no other reason than two of the better players in the side are not at their most effective whilst playing along side one another is another weak justification for any sort of inclusion. I'm not a huge fan of Milner playing in the middle either, but on current form he has done everything to suggest he has a better claim to the position than Carrick, and as you seem to be so keen on versatility I'm surprised you'd begrudge him the opportunity.
Worth noting that Capello has played Beckham pretty much exclusively in the midfield general role when he's come on. Reckon he could do the job just as well as Carrick if needs be.
Carrick's been anonymous all season. Definitely form you want to take to the World Cup...
If he actually managed to build on last season, I could see an argument. But there's absolutely no reason for him to be there as things stands. He's taken backward steps. Beckham still a star.
On another note, I'd comfortably take Bent ahead of Cole. I like Carlton Cole a lot, but he's not fit enough or consistent enough. Not sure how much more Bent has to do to prove that he's worthy of an England place.
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