Yeah, when I discussed this with a couple of mates, we came to the conclusion that if we get a good run injury-wise, we might do well. A couple of injuries, say goodnight. Bit like Liverpool last season.
Which explains why most squads will look similar.
However any squad that includes the likes of King and Owen are so off the mark as to be not funny.
As for Milner not being there but Carrick being there, well that's pure fantasy.
And Gibbs & Baines > Warnock? WTF?
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Capello & Redknapp clearly has King in their thoughts thoughts & the reasons i gave for possibly picking King they themselves have given. So no their is nothing funny about considering King as an option for the WC.
Okay Milner has been playing in centre for Villa alot of late since Downing has returned but he isn't a better CM option than Carrick. Carrick is back-up to Barry & given we cant be certain about Hargreaves, it makes Carrick's spot even more safe.
Warnock is about as good as Nick Shorey. The real WTF & joke here is you picking Warnock as back-up LB instead of Bridge.
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Not enough Villa love in Aussie's team.
Also, LOL at Paul Robinson getting a spot: neighbours character > english goalkeeper.
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Can definitely see Owen going if he comes off the bench and scores in two or three big games for United. It's the exact quality you're looking for in your backup strikers. The other options are players like Defoe and Bent- better players, but they're more players you want if someone breaks down than players you want on the bench (besides, they don't have many runs on the board in an England shirt).
Can't see Owen going. Hasn't got the legs anymore and 5 strikers is a luxuary in a 23-man squad, especially when we have Gerrard and (probably) Walcott who can play as auxiliary strikers too.
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Problem is Owen's rarely looked like coming on and making the impact. Fluffed his lines far more than he's hit the notes as late. In my mind he needed a much better start to the season to get himself in the picture. I like him, and i'm glad we signed him, but he shouldn't be in the England squad.
Think not taking Milner would be criminal, offers cover on the left flank (somewhere I think Joe Cole is wasted). Can only be one of Carrick or Hargreaves IMO, wish it'd be the latter, but time fast running out, in fact probably has. King effectively means were 1 player down for 2/3 matches considering the short timescale of the comp
James/Foster (whichever is making less clangers)
Ferdinand (if he can stop doing a King impression)
Baines (am a fan)
Brown (lack of other options)
Upson (see above)
Cant see who to drop out of those 24. Possible risk of taking just 2 keepers? (not often a team is required to use all 3.... Think Turkey did in the Euro Champs not too long ago mind)
Feel 5 strikers is a must (using Walcott as 5th striker if needed), 4 means 1 injury and the options are far too limited, however probably fight between Walcott and Lennon to stay in, and i'd prefer the latter.
Just dont like Heskey as an England player, and think people use stats to flatter him, its rare he's involved in England goals bar scuffed shots and rebounds of his head. Feel Crouch could be just as effective at it, however England dont play the same style with Crouch in as they know he can use his feet
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Really cant see how you can say he has not been threatening. Yea i'm disappointed he hasn't played/started more often. But was he really bought to be regular starter?. Berbatov/Wazza was always going to be the regular starters, i always saw Owen role to be one as similar to when SAF bought Laarson - which was as a impact sub in big games, while starting againts the weaker teams.
That poacher instict is much better than a Defoe who may have the pace, but whose finishing is still questionable at international level.
How has Owen not done anything for years, i see you have forgotten how he 2 goals vs Russia @ Wembley in the Euro 08 qualifier.
Owen pace when he scored those two goals vs Russia is no different to what it is now AFAIC. Back then he was at Newcastle and many poeple where saying he is DONE, but SAF thought otherwise & bought him.
Owen has to go to the WC..
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Milner can only go if their is an injury to one of Cole/Becks/Theo/Lennon.
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In fairness i'd prefer a midfield four with Lampard in the middle, and Gerrard doing whatever the hell he wants just behind Rooney.
Milner IMO has been the most effective player on the left wing for England in a long time, deserves a spot i think
Problem is, for all the hype, Laarson did the square root of **** all for us, mebbie 2 good games at the start, but looked out of it most of the time.
Thing is with Owen, he probably is still the best natural striker in England, but he doesn't look sharp, and when he is getting the game time he's not excelling enough... However Berbatov's injury might be the chance he needs. He needs to snatch it to prove he can do what we know he can. If he can put in a good run, i'd put him in ahead of Bent.
Rooney - all round striker who can produce the brilliance
Crouch - Height, control, good knack for goals at international level
Defoe - Speed and great finisher (slowly showing this at the top as well)
Owen - Predator who can turn a game by not letting a tired defence turn off
Walcott - Run the legs off a tired defence
Those 5 would offer a vast variety depending on who we play. Need Owen to step up over the next 6 weeks IMO to show he's good enough to go.
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