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Thread: Then and Now

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    Then and Now

    So how have the teams changed since 07 and how much has the game changed since the last WC?

    Australia
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    Then
    
    Gilchrist 
    Hayden
    Ponting
    Symonds
    Mussey
    Hodge 
    Haddin
    Lee
    Johnson
    Bracken
    Clark
    
    Now
    
    Watson
    Warner
    Ponting
    Clarke 
    Haddin
    Dussey
    Mussey
    Johnson
    Lee
    Hopes 
    Bracken
    Bangladesh
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    Then
    
    Tamim
    Nazimuddin
    Aftab
    Ashraful
    Shakib 
    Kapali
    Reza
    Rahim
    Mortaza
    Rasel
    Razzak
    
    Now
    
    Tamim
    Siddique
    Ashraful
    Shakib
    Mahmudallah
    Raqibul
    Mortaza
    Rahim
    Naeem
    Shahadat
    Rubel
    England
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    Then
    
    Maddy
    Prior
    Wright
    Pietersen
    Collingwood
    Flintoff
    Shah
    Mascarenhas
    Schofield
    Broad
    Anderson
    
    Now
    
    Bopara
    Wright
    Shah
    Morgan
    Collingwood
    Key
    Foster
    Rashid
    Broad
    Anderson
    Sidebottom
    India
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    Then
    
    Gambhir
    Sehwag
    Uthappa
    Yuvraj
    Karthik
    Dhoni
    I Pathan
    Harby
    Agarkar
    Sreesanth
    RP Singh
    
    Now
    
    Gambhir
    R Sharma
    Dhoni
    Yuvraj
    Raina
    Y Pathan
    I Pathan
    Harby
    Khan
    I Sharma
    Ojha
    New Zealand
    Code:
    Then
    
    Vincent
    McCullum
    Fulton
    Taylor
    Styris
    McMillan
    Oram
    Vettori
    Bond
    Gillespie
    Martin
    
    Now
    
    McCullum
    Ryder
    Guptill
    Taylor
    Oram
    Styris
    McGlashan
    Franklin
    Vettori
    Butler
    O'Brien
    Pakistan
    Code:
     Then
    
    Butt
    Nazir
    Khan
    Malik
    Afridi
    Misbah
    Akmal
    Arafat
    Gul
    Asif
    Tanvir
    
    Now
    
    Butt
    Shehzad
    Akmal
    Khan
    Misbah
    Malik
    Afridi
    Tanvir
    Gul
    Rao
    Ajmal
    South Africa
    Code:
     Then
    
    Smith
    Gibbs
    AB
    Kemp
    Boucher
    Pollock
    Albie
    van der Wath
    Philander
    Ntini
    Morne
    
    Now
    
    Smith
    Kallis
    Gibbs
    AB
    Albie
    Boucher
    JP
    van der Merwe
    Steyn
    Parnell
    Botha
    Sri Lanka
    Code:
     Then
    
    Tharanga
    Jayasuriya
    Sangakkara
    Jayawardene
    Silva
    Dilshan
    Mubarak
    Maharoof
    Fernando
    Malinga
    Vaas
    
    Now
    
    Dilshan
    Jayasuriya
    Sangakkara
    Jayawardene
    Silva
    de Saram/Mathews
    Maharoof
    Kulasekara
    Murali
    Malinga
    Mendis
    West Indies
    Code:
     Then
    
    Gayle
    Devon Smith
    Samuels
    Chanderpaul
    Smith
    Sarwan
    Ramdin
    Bravo
    Powell
    Rampaul
    Edwards
    
    Now
    
    Gayle
    Fletcher
    Marshall
    Chanderpaul
    Sarwan
    Bravo
    Pollard
    Ramdin
    Taylor
    Benn
    Edwards
    Last edited by Athlai; 07-06-2009 at 11:07 AM.
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    Looking at these teams I'd say that:

    India, South Africa, Sri Lanka West Indies are stronger teams than they were.
    England, New Zealand and Bangladesh roughly the same. Improvements in these teams come at a cost, Bangladesh's slightly better batting against losing some bowling, New Zealand vice versa with the massive loss of Bond though the upside in losing Gillespie.
    Australia and Pakistan are worse.

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    Uthappa, Joginder and Agarkar rightly out this time. Sreesanth and Karthik are marginal calls, ignoring injuries. India have pretty much the same team as last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.I.Joe View Post
    Uthappa, Joginder and Agarkar rightly out this time. Sreesanth and Karthik are marginal calls, ignoring injuries. India have pretty much the same team as last time.
    I think that the players they've dropped have been replaced by new strengths in the team. Raina, Zeek, Yusuf and Ojha FTW


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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    I think that the players they've dropped have been replaced by new strengths in the team. Raina, Zeek, Yusuf and Ojha FTW
    Yeah, could say that. I forgot that Yusuf played only the final last time. Raina >>> Uthappa and Ojha >>> Joginder definitely.

    Not convinced by the Zaheer love personally. For all that he's built up to be, he isn't that good a T20 bowler compared to Sreesanth. Definitely a better option than Agarkar though.

    Karthik and Yusuf are 50-50 calls. Both have done well in the IPL, but haven't set the world on fire in T20I's. Karthik should ideally have been in the squad as back for Dhoni.

    I guess a lot will depend on how much better Sehwag performs than the guy he'll replace when he's fit. He was crap all through the IPL except in the semifinal.

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    Reckon our team is better this time out if we can find a settled XI. Was a little experimental that one.
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    Yeah our team is definitely better this time around. Schofield and Maddy??
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    Yeah our team is definitely better this time around. Schofield and Maddy??
    what were you thinking
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    Voted yes for one reason - since then the role of slow bowlers has been refined in T20, and we're seeing some new blood (Mendis,Ojha,Ajmal,VdeMerwe, Adil Rashid) join the old reliables (Murali, Vettori, Harbhajan) and reduce the role of part timers (Sehwag) or 'utility players (Joginder).

    Many teams are often going with 2 slow bowlers (Not just the 4 subcontinental teams but also Eng, SA). This is an improvement.

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    Yeah, i think regardless of the actual players involved, T20 strategy has evolved so much since the last world cup that the overall quality must surely have improved.
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    The Filth have comfortably the better bowling. But the Gash have the batting. Might be quite good to watch.

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    I would 've been alot happier if the same team had played in this championship also
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