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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbacks View Post
    Or you can work on the fundamentals and try to improve your game. Accept defeat to better teams and work to close the gap. Or play two-up
    Exactly. That's what Ponting & men should do after this exit. Adapt or perish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smith View Post
    Exactly. That's what Ponting & men should do after this exit. Adapt or perish.
    Perish would be fine by me. Already too much time is spent on this ridiculous form of the game.

    Funny thing, I didn't know until the last couple of pages that there had already been a T20 world cup. I either missed it the first time around or it was so unmemorable I'd forgotten about it. Who won it? Either way T20 is more meaningless than ODIs, and ODIs outside the world cup are pretty much meaningless these days.

    Yeah but Cricket is a REALLY big sport in Australia. Rugby however for all the success we may have had, is only a really a minor sport (probably not much bigger than cricket is in Ireland or the Netherlands).

    For this reason, we Aussies care alot more about the fortunes of our Cricket team in all competitions, wheras most couldn't give a stuff about the Rugby Sevens.

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    Actually Rugby really isn't big at all in Australia. It's the third code behind AFL and League, and will soon be overtaken by soccer.

    Noone in Aus has even talked about the T20 WC really. I have several mates who are cricket fans, but noone is really interested. It's our football season and we've just had one of the biggest games of the season (State of Origin 1), there's swine flu and scandals everywhere and the cricket isn't anywhere near the back pages.

    I wouldn't be surprised if at the next T20 wc we don't really make the effort either.

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    There is a rugby test coming up against Italy and it barely getting a mention in the Sydney media. The only time rugby gets a mention in the media in Australia these days is the Tri Nations/Kiwi Tests. TBH it basically on par with Football/Soccer these days. Only difference is that they have more bigger national games more often. Rugby Sevens is neither here nor there when it comes to media attention. The only time I ever hear about it is in the local papers when a local club players gets called up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zabajk View Post
    One Twenty20 WC every non-ODI WC year is excessive, IMO.
    Maybe....

    But on the other side of the coin, I don't see the point of, say, England coming to the Caribbean, and playing five ODIs and only one 20/20.

    It starves 20/20 fans of internationals....


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    Quote Originally Posted by shivfan View Post
    Maybe....

    But on the other side of the coin, I don't see the point of, say, England coming to the Caribbean, and playing five ODIs and only one 20/20.

    It starves 20/20 fans of internationals....
    Even though I am a T20 fan. It would be a sad day when fans are separated into Test, ODI or T20 fans. Probably already happen with the polar views of many fans with regard to all three formats.

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    Clarke really shouldn't be playing 20/20 - Australian vc or not. We really need to start selecting specialist 20/20 squads for these types of tournaments. We have a big bash for a reason, don't we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    Even though I am a T20 fan. It would be a sad day when fans are separated into Test, ODI or T20 fans. Probably already happen with the polar views of many fans with regard to all three formats.
    I'm primarily a fan of Test cricket, though I do appreciate 20/20s....

    My kids, however, will only watch 20/20s. I guess the younger generation are always in a hurry....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shivfan View Post
    I'm primarily a fan of Test cricket, though I do appreciate 20/20s....

    My kids, however, will only watch 20/20s. I guess the younger generation are always in a hurry....
    That is fair enough I guess. You want to get your kids into cricket and if T20 is the only format they are interested, then so be it.

    On a related note would be funny to see what the Richards' do if they had kids and they only wanted to watch T20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    That is fair enough I guess. You want to get your kids into cricket and if T20 is the only format they are interested, then so be it.

    On a related note would be funny to see what the Richards' do if they had kids and they only wanted to watch T20.
    "the Richard"

    Sounds like some kind of monster.

    Anyway, agree with this, i can take my 12-year old brother to a T20 game and he'll have a great time. Appreciation for tests might come a bit later, but it's a great place to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    Unfortunately, there's every likelihood that Oz will win the Ashes quite easily and this debacle will be all but forgotten
    Very true. This tournament would have no effect on the mind of Hughes, Katich et al. Fortunately!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post


    As for WI being a 'very good limited overs nation', is this the same WI that just lost series home and away to a pretty ordinary England team?
    The Windies can be a good test/odi/T/20 side on their day and can compete with any side.

    It just so happened that Australia met them on one of those good days just like England met Holland on one of their 'good' days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    Perish would be fine by me. Already too much time is spent on this ridiculous form of the game.

    Funny thing, I didn't know until the last couple of pages that there had already been a T20 world cup. I either missed it the first time around or it was so unmemorable I'd forgotten about it. Who won it? Either way T20 is more meaningless than ODIs, and ODIs outside the world cup are pretty much meaningless these days.



    Actually Rugby really isn't big at all in Australia. It's the third code behind AFL and League, and will soon be overtaken by soccer.

    Noone in Aus has even talked about the T20 WC really. I have several mates who are cricket fans, but noone is really interested. It's our football season and we've just had one of the biggest games of the season (State of Origin 1), there's swine flu and scandals everywhere and the cricket isn't anywhere near the back pages.

    I wouldn't be surprised if at the next T20 wc we don't really make the effort either.
    Um, soccer or football as some like to call it, is far far bigger than rugby already and has been for a long time. On every indicator too; number of participant (I think by a factor of 5 or so), by TV ratings, by income generated. While the difference between the two is massive in the "non-rugby states", even in the "rugby states" soccer is bigger.

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    I think this early exit is a testament to the decline of the Australian ODI team and also their inability to adapt to this new format. When I look at every time in the tournament, with the exception of one or two Twenty20 specialists, everyone brought their ODI squad. It makes sense because a team comprised of mostly Twenty20 players lack international experience. It's on the owness of the players who play ODI cricket for their country to adapt. Even Kallis has started doing so.

    I think Australia have bigger issues not seen on the surface, whether it be complacency, animosity or poor management. I'm not too sure but this isn't the first time this year that they've been disappointed by their performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    It not as if West Indies had better preparation. They also had a Test and ODI series that effected their ability to play large parts of the IPL. Three of their players missed the IPL to be fit/prepared for the England tour. Gayle, Bravo and Edwards played as much of the IPL as some of the Aussie players.
    Its not just missing IPL 09. Other than the T20WC 07, the general atmosphere amongst Australia T20 internationals has basically been exhibiton, or due to county player burnout/injury the big players have just rested.

    WI on the other hand, are just naturally suited to T20 cricket. They are just "see ball, hit ball". The awful technical deficiences of their batsmen are easily masked in this format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smith View Post
    Australia at this rate will have to. They have hardly won ODI series of late against quality opposition. And not as if they are invincibles anymore.

    BTW stumbled upon this poor excuse for an article in cricinfo.com. While they have revamped the looks of the site, publishing of articles like this shows the editorial board needs to get a revamp as well. Pathetic really. Had someone posted this here, would have been shunted off labelled a troll.

    Cricinfo.com - Why Australia lost, and the perils of being a commentator

    Edit - Saw it was in the Cricinfo tabloid trash they call Page 2. Still....
    Thats simply due to the fact that since beating WI 5-0. The ODI side has been hit by alot of injuries. Once all are fit Australia still has the best ODI side, with India very close.

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