A pessimistic look at Australia's WC chances - Page 4

aussie · 07-06-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pasag

Not my point.

Sry deh, read you wrong son...

cowboy up · 07-06-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by aussie

Not in the ODI career so far no. He can finish yea, but he aint a six hitter. Ferguson would score 50 of 40 balls with 4/5 boundaries or something...

I was comparing Hughes as a possible T20 opening option to Marsh & Warner which ATM he probably won't offer much of difference to those two in that format.

at he moment keep hughes out of 20/20 and keep his head in the long form of the game,we dont want to get him out of his current form in the 4 and 5 day games,after the ashes then experiment with it.

inbox24 · 07-06-2009, 10:16 AM

Marsh should never play international cricket.

The notion of keeping Hughes out of T20s for the sake of development is ludicrous. If such conservative thinking had been adopted then a whole bunch of great ODI players would never have played for Australia. It's just a ridiculous as the 'players can never be picked to bat out of position' theory.

aussie · 07-06-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by inbox24

Marsh should never play international cricket.

Haa...a bit OTT dont you think?

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Originally Posted by inbox24

The notion of keeping Hughes out of T20s for the sake of development is ludicrous. If such conservative thinking had been adopted then a whole bunch of great ODI players would never have played for Australia. It's just a ridiculous as the 'players can never be picked to bat out of position' theory.

Well given AUS have Watson, Warner, Marsh as opener options. I dont think Hughes is needed at T20 level really.

chaminda_00 · 09-06-2009, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by aussie

Well given AUS have Watson, Warner, Marsh as opener options. I dont think Hughes is needed at T20 level really.

Some would argue Hughes is natural opener and rest are makeshift openers. Therefore Hughes is a better option then all three.

Pretty sure when Watson plays for NSW. Hughes will open ahead of him. Though Jaques might open ahead of both in ODs.

Naumaan · 09-06-2009, 02:30 AM

SAD to say Australia's chances are over unfortunately, hey but don't worry Australia lost in a group consisting WESTINDIES & SRILANKA
whereas it's looking like Pakistan will be following them & feeling SHAME that we are being elimenated by ENGLAND & NETHERLANDS

Cruxdude · 09-06-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pasag

Which youngsters? Honestly Australia have to pick the right people, as the IPL showed, regardless of age. One of the younger players in the team, Michael Clarke is rubbish. Here's a team of Australians over 30s still playing T20 cricket that would have been equal (or near) favourites for the tournament, imo.

Hayden
Gilchrist
Hodge
Carseldine
Symonds
Hussey
Hussey
Warne
Nannes
Harwood
McGrath/Lee

This team would have pulled the Aussies down in a years times. Then back to square one.

Naumaan · 09-06-2009, 01:27 PM

This team would probably 've won you this championship i guess, you choose too good players to be matched by others

Smith · 09-06-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Naumaan

This team would probably 've won you this championship i guess, you choose too good players to be matched by others

at their peak

Andre · 09-06-2009, 09:40 PM

Anyone wanna have a stab at picking a post Twenty20 WC debacle Aussie side? (Say 15 for arguements sake)

Haddin (c)
Warner
Watson
Hodge
White
Ferguson
Johnson
Krejza
Geeves
Siddle
Holland

Hauritz
D Hussey
Hilfenhaus
Cosgrove.

inbox24 · 09-06-2009, 09:47 PM

Best team possible:

Watson
Haddin
Warner
Hodge
Hussey
Hussey
Ferguson
Johnson
Hauritz
Nannes
Hilfenhaus

Lee
Clark
Siddle
Jaques

Top_Cat · 09-06-2009, 11:14 PM

According to Richard's theory of picking the guys with the best stats with no other considerations, the composition of the side is obvious;

Warner
Hughes
D Harris
Hodge
Carseldine
D Hussey
Crosthwaite
Bird
Nannes
Simpson
Rimmington

This side probably would have done better, tbh. Like the batting, the bowling's probably a bit erratic, though....

four_or_six · 10-06-2009, 12:18 PM

I'm going with my belief that the team wasn't a million miles away, and that it's a good idea for Ponting to let the T20's go, and it's pointless bringing in someone like Hodge now at his age.

Haddin
Warner
Watson
Clarke
D Hussey
Ferguson
White
Johnson
Lee
Haurtiz
<insert random bowler here>

Random bowler is a position that definitely needs to be sorted out.

Clarke is in on the proviso that he doesn't rest from any T20 matches in the future. He's too talented a batsman not to figure it out eventually, and he's a gun fielder and a more than useful bowling option.

stephen · 11-06-2009, 07:44 PM

Based on IPL form I'd certainly open with Hayden and Gilchrist.

Hayden
Gilchrist
Ponting
Hodge
Hussey
Hussey
Castledine
Johnson
Lee
Hauritz
Bracken

Smith · 11-06-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stephen

Based on IPL form I'd certainly open with Hayden and Gilchrist.

Hayden
Gilchrist
Ponting
Hodge
Hussey
Hussey
Castledine
Johnson
Lee
Hauritz
Bracken

Ponting should be relieved of T20 captaincy. It is eating into him.

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four_or_six Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,136	I'm going with my belief that the team wasn't a million miles away, and that it's a good idea for Ponting to let the T20's go, and it's pointless bringing in someone like Hodge now at his age. Haddin Warner Watson Clarke D Hussey Ferguson White Johnson Lee Haurtiz <insert random bowler here> Random bowler is a position that definitely needs to be sorted out. Clarke is in on the proviso that he doesn't rest from any T20 matches in the future. He's too talented a batsman not to figure it out eventually, and he's a gun fielder and a more than useful bowling option. Last edited by four_or_six; 10-06-2009 at 12:20 PM.

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Naumaan First Class Debutant Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pakistan Posts: 820	SAD to say Australia's chances are over unfortunately, hey but don't worry Australia lost in a group consisting WESTINDIES & SRILANKA whereas it's looking like Pakistan will be following them & feeling SHAME that we are being elimenated by ENGLAND & NETHERLANDS

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Andre International Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 3,112	Anyone wanna have a stab at picking a post Twenty20 WC debacle Aussie side? (Say 15 for arguements sake) Haddin (c) Warner Watson Hodge White Ferguson Johnson Krejza Geeves Siddle Holland Hauritz D Hussey Hilfenhaus Cosgrove.

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stephen International Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aus Posts: 3,607	Based on IPL form I'd certainly open with Hayden and Gilchrist. Hayden Gilchrist Ponting Hodge Hussey Hussey Castledine Johnson Lee Hauritz Bracken

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