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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    As far as im aware lucas neills motion stopped before the italian player made contact, does this count for anything?
    Certainly does. That's the whole problem with the decision, in fact. Neill wasn't moving - therefore he wasn't making a challenge on the player. The player ran into him when Neill was stationary, which means if anything it was a foul on Neill rather than the other way around. You can't foul someone if you don't move, simply.

    It's so harsh on Neill who has been the defender of the tournament and the backbone of a team that could well have made the final 8 to give up a penalty like that. Utterly undeserved, both in terms of the foul itself and his reputation. Have to feel for the guy.
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    Neill went down and would have got the ball had Grosso kept going in the same direction. He changed a bit, leaving Neill there as a springboard for that ****er to leap off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    It wasn't a penalty. Simple as.

    The trouble is that he was sprawled on the floor, leaving Grosso with the relatively simple task of leaving a trailing foot there & going to ground. The ref was a sucker for buying it, but more blatant dives get pens every weekend.
    And it just encourages more diving now that people have seen that it has earnt Italy a place in the quarter finals of the World Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    As far as im aware lucas neills motion stopped before the italian player made contact, does this count for anything?
    Not in my eyes. Doesn't really matter if he's stopped, he's still an obstacle and the Italian could still therefore be fouled by him. Ultimately, it was a stupid, stupid decision by Neill to go to ground and it made it child's play for Grosso to turn it into a penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    As far as im aware lucas neills motion stopped before the italian player made contact, does this count for anything?
    No he lunged into a challenge and got everything he deserved. It is unfortunate that people will now bemoan the ref and create a big fašade that the ref cost Australia the game, no Lucas Neill, Gus Hiddink cost Australia the game. Your playing against ten men yet your coach waits until the 80th minute to show any sign of ambition and as for Neill well I have already said it, he was an idiot.

    Fact of the matter, no lunge from Neill, no pen, easy as that.

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    Grosso didn't have to run over the top of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    Not in my eyes. Doesn't really matter if he's stopped, he's still an obstacle and the Italian could still therefore be fouled by him. Ultimately, it was a stupid, stupid decision by Neill to go to ground and it made it child's play for Grosso to turn it into a penalty.
    And if it had have been England?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    Not in my eyes. Doesn't really matter if he's stopped, he's still an obstacle and the Italian could still therefore be fouled by him. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by steds
    Grosso didn't have to run over the top of him.
    Neill didnĺt have to lunge in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    And if it had have been England?
    The media would have castigated him forever, and everyone would say he's ***** for as long as his career lasted (a la Neville the younger)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    but more blatant dives get pens every weekend.
    One of the primary reasons I can hardly watch a game of football anymore, that along with the silly number of unnecessary cards that unfairly impact games.

    Pro Football is not a product I am that interested in anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy
    No he lunged into a challenge and got everything he deserved. It is unfortunate that people will now bemoan the ref and create a big fašade that the ref cost Australia the game, no Lucas Neill, Gus Hiddink cost Australia the game. Your playing against ten men yet your coach waits until the 80th minute to show any sign of ambition and as for Neill well I have already said it, he was an idiot.

    Fact of the matter, no lunge from Neill, no pen, easy as that.
    ok... thats ok, but another fact of the matter is that if the ref had have made the correct decision , no pen, easy as that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    And if it had have been England?
    Phil Neville did exactly the same in Charleroi against Romaina in Euro 2000.

    Result = we still abuse the hell out of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy
    Neill didnĺt have to lunge in.
    He didn't lunge in, he was stationary. Being on the ground isn't the same as lunging into a challenge, and running over the top of him was simply a blatant attempt to win a penalty that wasn't there.

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