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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    The rest of Oceania might as well merge with Asia...
    Travelling costs of the Nauru Football Federation would skyrocket, I think. Imagine playing away matches in Kyrgyzstan, Bahrain and North Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes
    Travelling costs of the Nauru Football Federation would skyrocket, I think. Imagine playing away matches in Kyrgyzstan, Bahrain and North Korea.
    Isn't the AFC somewhat regionalised with qualifying groups and so on? If not, Oceania could certainly become a subsidiary of the AFC, where it had its own qualifying section which fed into the later stages (preventing unnecessary travel and such), not just for the World Cup, but also for the Asian Nations Cup and so on. I'm sure Nauru could get a team over to Bahrain to play in a major tournament, if they qualified.
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    I have to say that without Oz Oceania will be very happy with their half-spot. I don't know all that much about the strength of NZ, but judging by the qualifying results this time around they'll have a better chance of qualifying via a play-off with the fifth placed South American team than they would fighting thru the Asian qualifiers.

    Mind you, the results this time kinda give lie to my assumption it'll be NZ in the play-off anyway!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes
    Travelling costs of the Nauru Football Federation would skyrocket, I think. Imagine playing away matches in Kyrgyzstan, Bahrain and North Korea.
    I have a feeling Nauru wouldn't bother, in that case. The country is close to bankruptcy, its main sport is Aussie rules, and there's only about 10,000 on the island. In fact, I hardly remember them ever being at a Oceania qualifying tournament. Useless fact #45 - my family lived there for 18 months.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    I have to say that without Oz Oceania will be very happy with their half-spot. I don't know all that much about the strength of NZ, but judging by the qualifying results this time around they'll have a better chance of qualifying via a play-off with the fifth placed South American team than they would fighting thru the Asian qualifiers.

    Mind you, the results this time kinda give lie to my assumption it'll be NZ in the play-off anyway!
    Yeah we had a shocker in the qualifiers last time round, but have improved remarkably since then. They might as well rename Oceania New Zealand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Isn't the AFC somewhat regionalised with qualifying groups and so on? If not, Oceania could certainly become a subsidiary of the AFC, where it had its own qualifying section which fed into the later stages (preventing unnecessary travel and such), not just for the World Cup, but also for the Asian Nations Cup and so on. I'm sure Nauru could get a team over to Bahrain to play in a major tournament, if they qualified.
    Yeah, that'd probably be best (a bit like the Caribbean works within CONCACAF at present). Of course, now Voltman has pointed out that they don't actually play (their one registered international is a 2-1 win over the Solomon Islands), so I'd better replace them with Samoa in my example.

    Wouldn't be averse to merging CONCACAF and CONMEBOL, either - the two work together quite a lot (with USA and Mexico being invited to the Copa America regularly), time zones aren't really a problem. The only thing I can see is the South American home-and-away league being ditched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Isn't the AFC somewhat regionalised with qualifying groups and so on? If not, Oceania could certainly become a subsidiary of the AFC, where it had its own qualifying section which fed into the later stages (preventing unnecessary travel and such), not just for the World Cup, but also for the Asian Nations Cup and so on. I'm sure Nauru could get a team over to Bahrain to play in a major tournament, if they qualified.
    That would be a logical extension of the current situation - IIRC Australia didn't play many games in qualifying did they - so could fit those into a shorter spell and have a final qualifying thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    That would be a logical extension of the current situation - IIRC Australia didn't play many games in qualifying did they - so could fit those into a shorter spell and have a final qualifying thing.
    Yeah, very few games, and really only two against a seriously competitive side. That's one of the best things about moving to the AFC really - regular competitive international fixtures. Australia has already played Bahrain in an Asian Nations Cup qualifier, and they have three more of them coming up in August, something which simply didn't happen in Oceania.

    Something will have to be done about Oceania now, because it's going to become even more pointless without Australia. New Zealand is now the only country in the region who will have a team of professionals representing them, as far as I'm aware.

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    I want Italy out of the tournament. I hope Czech beats Italy and whoever wins between Ghana and USA, wins by a huge marging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz
    I want Italy out of the tournament. I hope Czech beats Italy and whoever wins between Ghana and USA, wins by a huge marging.
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    Can I be the first to advocate that no continent should get an extra qualifying place, instead the Hosts should qualify automatically each time, it's quite the scandal that Brazil had to qualify.
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    I really am getting old. My "hate" is diluting. I've found myself, over the last few days, "quite indifferent as to" bordering on "wouldn't mind seeing" the US of States or the Convicts doing well in their respective matches.

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    The simple answer is that being a Rams fan in the 80s I had no choice, they were the Man U/Chelsea of their day, their fans are arrogant filth, the ref's loved 'em etc. The detailed answer, I've learned over the years, is best left alone as it upsets too many people. Sorry if that sounds like a cop out.

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    No worries. Never knew of any Derby County resentment to these parts. Well, except when the mighty whites were stuffing them 5-1 every year

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