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    England in 1990 vs England in 2006

    Well as long as i have been following football the current England team is the best overall without doubt and many people have rated it the best since we last won the cup back in 1966. But just a few minutes ago my father was telling me the side that lost in the semi's in Italy 90 was equally good or even better than the present day side. Thoughts?

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    We had the world's greatest goalie in Shilts, a brilliant sweeper in Ooo Mark Wright, Lineker, Gazza, Psycho, Des Walker, Terry Butcher, Peter Obviously-Beardsley and one or two others too forgettable to name. And David Platt.

    They'd have wiped the floor with the Rooneyless 2006 version (although saying that we did have Chris Waddle in 1990, so that might have made it tighter)
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    Probably still are hopeless in a penalty shoot-out (both teams).

    Although Gazza would easily win the pizzia pie eating contest about as convincingly (sp) as South Africa beat New Zealand in the 1st Test a few weeks back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    We had the world's greatest goalie in Shilts, a brilliant sweeper in Ooo Mark Wright, Lineker, Gazza, Psycho, Des Walker, Terry Butcher, Peter Obviously-Beardsley and one or two others too forgettable to name. And David Platt.

    They'd have wiped the floor with the Rooneyless 2006 version (although saying that we did have Chris Waddle in 1990, so that might have made it tighter)
    pretty much the same thing pops said, but again sounds goood..


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    it moset certainly does. Personally i would say the 2006 squad is however stronger than the one in 1990.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    We had the world's greatest goalie in Shilts, a brilliant sweeper in Ooo Mark Wright, Lineker, Gazza, Psycho, Des Walker, Terry Butcher, Peter Obviously-Beardsley and one or two others too forgettable to name. And David Platt.

    They'd have wiped the floor with the Rooneyless 2006 version (although saying that we did have Chris Waddle in 1990, so that might have made it tighter)
    Ashley Cole is a far better player than Stewart Pearce ever was.
    I dont know but i would rekon John Terry would be just as good if not better than Butcher
    Lampard and Gerrard better than David Platt
    and Owen is not far of Lineker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas
    Ashley Cole is a far better player than Stewart Pearce ever was.
    I dont know but i would rekon John Terry would be just as good if not better than Butcher
    Lampard and Gerrard better than David Platt
    and Owen is not far of Lineker.
    Ashley Cole might well be as a footballer, but (and remember this is a Derby fan saying this) Pearce the Florist is made up of the same kind of stuff that Dave Mackay was made of.

    John Terry is that type of character, granted, and looks to be equally as good a footballer as Ooo Mark Wright - a huge plus for the 2006 squad and the best all-round defender I've seen in English football for more than 20 years.

    It remains to be seen whether Lampard, Gerrard, Joe Cole or anyone else out of the 2006 luckybag of prettyboy midfielders are better than my old socks as far as their England displays are concerned. All too often, any of the trio (individually or collectively) have just gone missing with England - which is strange because all (excluding Beckham) have been fantastic in club football for the last year or so.

    Losing Rooney was a savage blow, but if the rest are as good as their reputations, we'll be all right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas
    Ashley Cole is a far better player than Stewart Pearce ever was.
    Going forward maybe.

    Not defensively though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    It remains to be seen whether Lampard, Gerrard, Joe Cole or anyone else out of the 2006 luckybag of prettyboy midfielders are better than my old socks as far as their England displays are concerned.
    IMO Cole's been the pick of the England midfield this year - really made that left sided role his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    IMO Cole's been the pick of the England midfield this year - really made that left sided role his own.
    Good shout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    IMO Cole's been the pick of the England midfield this year - really made that left sided role his own.
    Yes, there I do agree. It was their ineffectiveness collectively that clouded my vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Going forward maybe.

    Not defensively though.
    In Euro 2004 Cole was fantastic defensively as well as going forwards, and has been since. Still, I wouldn't rate him as highly as Pearce as a defender, so fair point

    Shilton over Robinson, Terry over Wright, Rooney over Beardsley, Lineker over Owen, Joe Cole over Waddle, Gazza and Gerrard not a lot to choose - the two teams would produce a good contest actually!

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    1990 Gazza ****es all over Gerrard. Wright in '90 was very very good, close between he and Terry, to be honest I'd keep Waddle over Cole, another close decision though.

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