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Old 01-07-2006, 04:05 PM   #826 (permalink)
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Buck up, cockney. Just a bloody game of football.
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I don't feel like rubbing it in, but I should .

Hard luck, though. Rooney's send off was a joke.
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England can't take penalties. I just feel so empty. Annoyed I could take, but I just feel numb.

Bloomin' Portugal even gave us two pens & we still messed it up.
Yeah that's a really poor show. Every single shootout...

Teams are just trying for 0-0's now so they can take you lot to penalties. Also you'd think the players would practice their penalties every 2 years between the euro and the wc. You need to start teaching the youth players penalties along with the obvious skills they're alerady learning.

I suppose it's all the pressure from back home. So much riding on each kick. Still, I would have loved to see Postiga score from another chip from the spot. I love seeing that carefree attituded in such a pressure filled environment
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Stop being so bloody condescending. You're the one who threw stuff at your TV when watching rugby - this is no different.
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The players obviously just can't handle the pressure at the highest level.

The obvious example being the penalty kick that Gerrard took in the FA Cup where he thundered the ball into the back of the neck while he effort against Portugal was just pathetic.

How can they be that bad, unbelievable really?
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Old 02-07-2006, 03:53 AM   #832 (permalink)
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The players obviously just can't handle the pressure at the highest level.

The obvious example being the penalty kick that Gerrard took in the FA Cup where he thundered the ball into the back of the neck while he effort against Portugal was just pathetic.

How can they be that bad, unbelievable really?
It's pretty unforgivable. You only have to look at the total professionalism of the Germans when taking their penalties. All made their minds up early & stuck to their decisions. I don't think it was co-incidence that Lehmann "guessed" right for all the kicks either. Most penalty takers favour one side or the other; someone on the German staff had clearly done their homework.

In contrast we bring on a centre-half, not a particularly skillful ball player or anything, for him to take one. Why?
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Yeah that's a really poor show. Every single shootout...

Teams are just trying for 0-0's now so they can take you lot to penalties. Also you'd think the players would practice their penalties every 2 years between the euro and the wc. You need to start teaching the youth players penalties along with the obvious skills they're alerady learning.

I suppose it's all the pressure from back home. So much riding on each kick. Still, I would have loved to see Postiga score from another chip from the spot. I love seeing that carefree attituded in such a pressure filled environment
Typicial English, never learn from the past.

Euro 96 and 2004 England were knocked out in a penalty shoot-out, and in the World Cup in 1990 and '98 and still get knocked out, either Eriksson is an idiot for not getting them to practise penalties, or the players don't have the bottle for it (would that make them over hyped?).

If people like Lampard, Gerrard (just using them as an example, just like Beckham) can score crucial penalties for their clubs, and in very big matches (like EPL and in Europe), then why not for England where the pressure is already pretty big? I realise players aren't robots and they have their off days, but this has happened far too many times and it is not acceptable.

I'm glad Eriksson is gone, too many chopping and changing, too many needless experiements, too many different formations, I realise players get injured and suspended, but not change just for the sake of it? Do you want 4-4-2, or 4-5-1? Make up your mind.

Hopefully McLaren will be different, although I do fear with him is that he will play one way and England could be a goal or two down, and then he goes for broke by throwing on strikers in the 65th minute looking for a miracle. I agree that Stuart pierce should be the number 2, some players need a kick the backside (the way Wayne Rooney has acted on occassions has need this) and need motivating.
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The players obviously just can't handle the pressure at the highest level.

The obvious example being the penalty kick that Gerrard took in the FA Cup where he thundered the ball into the back of the neck while he effort against Portugal was just pathetic.

How can they be that bad, unbelievable really?
Liverpool probably means more to him then England IMO.
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Yeah that's a really poor show. Every single shootout...
They beat Spain in Euro 96
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Interesting point. He's certainly still never delivered the goods in an England shirt. He outshone Lampard this time, but when England have needed him (dire second half against Paraguay, struggling to beat T&T and Ecuador, yesterday) he hasn't looked willing to grab the game by the balls in the manner that his reputation is built on.
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I was hoping for Beckham to announce his international retirement, but meh we'll see if Mclaren has the balls to pick his best side.
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