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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Delgado


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    I'm expecting your lot to go out on penalties against Portugal. Even though they're missing a fair few players, I think they'll do enough to hold you to a draw, and then sneak past (just for a change) on penalties. Especially if England score early, because that will just about guarantee that you'll sit back for the rest of the game and concede in the 85th minute.

    The thing is though, if Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney play out of their socks then you're well capable of knocking 3 or 4 goals in. It's just that they (Lampard in particular, Gerrard less so, and Rooney's still rusty) haven't looked even close to doing that.
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    The optimism in this thread is so encouraging I tell ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    Looking ahead saturday's game, we all know there has been a lot of talk in the media about formations with Sven saying today (yesterday british time) he has already decided on it, but for me hopefully the same side that played vs Ecuador should play except the formation should be 4-4-2 Neville back in his position Hargreaves or Carrick in the holding role i wouldn't mind seeing either but i expect it to be Hargreaves for obvious reason while playing Gerrard up as the second striker along with Rooney.
    Why not stick with the formation that worked in the last game?

    Neville for Hargreaves (assuming fit) and that'll do for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Why not stick with the formation that worked in the last game?

    Neville for Hargreaves (assuming fit) and that'll do for me.
    It's probably pushing things a tad to say that it worked against Ecuador, but I'm with you regarding the formation. As long as we can persuade the midfield to actually do their jobs instead of charging upfield like a bunch of 10 year olds as soon as the holding player gets the ball. Chances are Hargreaves will play the holding role though.

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    This is what I expect Sven to play against Portugal:

    Code:
               Robinson
    
    Neville   Ferdinand   Terry   A Cole
    
             Hargreaves
    
    Beckham  Gerrard   Lampard  J Cole
    
              Rooney
    However, this is what I'd go with:

    Code:
                Robinson
    
    Neville   Ferdinand   Terry   A Cole
    
    Lennon   Gerrard   Carrick   J Cole
    
                    Rooney
    
                  Crouch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney Rubble
    This is what I expect Sven to play against Portugal:

    Code:
               Robinson
    
    Neville   Ferdinand   Terry   A Cole
    
             Hargreaves
    
    Beckham  Gerrard   Lampard  J Cole
    
              Rooney
    However, this is what I'd go with:

    Code:
                Robinson
    
    Neville   Ferdinand   Terry   A Cole
    
    Lennon   Gerrard   Carrick   J Cole
    
                    Rooney
    
                  Crouch
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    Actually, I'm with Sven about not starting with Crouch. Nice bloke and awesome contribution to the WAG's but patently not good enough, judging by the chances he failed to put away earlier in the tournament. Maybe bring him on if we're struggling, like against Argentina in that friendly.

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    Crouch is a scare them off the bench player - if he starts we just go too long.

    I think the only call is if Neville is fit.

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    Unless Lampard doesn't recover from whatever's ailing him.

    If that's the case, do we pick Crouch and go 4-4-2, or move Beckham inside, and play Lennon on the right of a 5 man midfield?

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    If that's the case there's a couple of options - Carrick in with Hargreaves and Gerrard just in front is another one.

    I think he'll stick to the 4-5-1 because Rooney can manage a full game now - wouldn't move Beckham off the wing either, because a great amount of his effectiveness is crossing - can't do that from infield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    If that's the case there's a couple of options - Carrick in with Hargreaves and Gerrard just in front is another one.

    I think he'll stick to the 4-5-1 because Rooney can manage a full game now - wouldn't move Beckham off the wing either, because a great amount of his effectiveness is crossing - can't do that from infield.
    Yes, that's the 3rd option. It hadn't occured to me to pick 2 "holding players", but in reality Hargreaves & Carrick are very different.

    Whilst your solution may well be what will happen, I do wonder how much crossing we actually get from Beckham in open play. I'd argue that with 5 in midfield he can drift wide from time to time and we'd see as much from him as we do at the moment.

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    You have to remember that with Neville back tomorrow, that will make a big difference to our right hand side - they work very well as a pairing.

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